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Ride-On Tyre (Tire) sealant

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Put new tires on the bike today. I run Ride-On in my tires and thought a few pictures of the relatively small amount of 'protected' area of the tyre might be interesting. The tyres had the recomended amount in them but I think I'll add an ounce or two more in the rear this time.

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I think we've been through the worth or worthlessness (is that a word) of this product but it bailed me out once and the stuff for the new tyres is on the shelf. [-(
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Why manufacturers do not design tires with a similar coating covering much more surface ?
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Or maybe somebody could make a membrane that could be brushed on the inside of a tire at install time. Remember where you heard it first. :smt002
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What's that stuff weigh? It's all unsprung weight and it's toward the outside of the rotating mass. It may stop leaks but what about the handling?

With everyone going to lighter wheels, tires... to reduce unsprung weight this would seem to be going in the wrong direction.

Just wondering...
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Ride-on or Tyre Guardian I am going to try it on my next tires set...and see if it really affect the ride or not.
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I have noticed no effect. After I first tried it I took the bike to the twisties in NC and we went fast. Ride On is good stuff. But try it for yourself.

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FredeR1200Ric wrote:Why manufacturers do not design tires with a similar coating covering much more surface ?
Couple of reasons come to mind, one practical, one legal.

On a practical standpoint, it'd have to stay "ready to go" for up to several years before the tire was mounted. Depending on the compound used, that might not be so practical.

On a legal standpoint, I could see fear of being sued because while no product nor construction can guard against all flats, they'll still get sued when somebody gets a flat. Or lets the tire run flat. Or something.

Feeling cynical this morning, I guess...

On a related note, I've been reading recently about self-healing metals and plastics. The approach is to embed very small fluid-filled capsules in either the paint (for metal) or within the plastic matrix (for a solid plastic part). When scratched or fractured, the capsules break, the fluid comes out and either fills the scratch or the cracks.

I wonder if you could do something like that for tires. It might not help with, say, a big nail or a screw if you pulled it out, but it might let the tire seal well around the nail or screw until you got to an appropriate place for a real repair.

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Is there any trick or tool to use before installing the tire ? in order to spin the wheel so the tyre guardian will layer the inner tube on a much larger surface. Like a spinning & transversal rotating simultaneously for 30mns or the time it should to take for the Tyre Guardian to dry. (because it dry out as a dealer told me compare to other similar products)

Was just wondering...that's all
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The Ride On will not "Dry" out as in Dry. It will still be scoopable when you next change your tire. You could scoop it out and have it installed in the next tire.
Just follow the instructions and ride the bike around after you put it in. Like the instructions say.

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FredeR1200Ric wrote:so the tyre guardian will layer the inner tube
Was just wondering...that's all

Fred,
You really shouldn't be using inner tubes on a tire designed to be tubeless. The tire could overheat and blow out.
Why are you running inner tubes???
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"Fred,
You really shouldn't be using inner tubes on a tire designed to be tubeless. The tire could overheat and blow out.
Why are you running inner tubes???"

I think Fred may be French.


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Dudes ! I don't even know what really is an Inner tube ! :shock:

So ! are you saying that the Pilot Road II aren't designed to receive Tire sealant ?

Well ! whatever I was just recently wondering how to layer inside the tire with more covered surface...

And....hey ! you know us French/American people
we invented so much stuff over the past millenniums
that we don't even have to remember their names.
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FredeR1200Ric wrote:Is there any trick or tool to use before installing the tire ? in order to spin the wheel so the tyre guardian will layer the inner tube on a much larger surface. Like a spinning & transversal rotating simultaneously for 30mns or the time it should to take for the Tyre Guardian to dry. (because it dry out as a dealer told me compare to other similar products)

Was just wondering...that's all
Frede I think it was this posting that gave the impression that you are using innertubes.
Ride ON works very well with Pilot Road Twos.

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Oh Yeah Celticus ! its my fault... I am always confuse with technical vocabulary in English....but I was trying to ask if there was a trick to layer the sealant on more space inside the tire...whatever if it takes longer to install the tire.
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FredeR1200Ric wrote:Oh Yeah Celticus ! its my fault... I am always confuse with technical vocabulary in English....but I was trying to ask if there was a trick to layer the sealant on more space inside the tire...whatever if it takes longer to install the tire.
No. Ride on stays fluid, and moves itself to the 'right' positions as you ride.
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Thanks ! ;) anyway I'll use the standard way and see how it goes.... Cheers !
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I have it on my new PR2's and have noticed nothing. I guess thats a good thing! Isn't that the point after all.
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