If I wasn't riding a Roadster . . .

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If I wasn't riding a Roadster . . .

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. . . this bike might be singing it's siren song to me! :smt023

New Guzzi 1200 Sport!

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Full article, with more pictures and including the comment that it is really a sport tourer, with bags available! It even has a beak of sorts!:)

http://www.infomotori.co.uk/a_75_EN_17914_1.html

Edited to add, the available bags comment was in another article, not the one linked. Sorry. But they are available!
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That's a nice looking bike.

But then the practical side of me kicks in. I think their dealer network makes BMW's seem like H-D's in comparison. Where do you buy one of these and who can service it?
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That really is a great looking bike. I might need to run down to the Guzzi dealer to look.

No, better not, last time i did something like that. I ended up with a BMW R1150R. I have way to many miles to look forward too on the bike that I have sitting in the garage. I am going to ride the poop out of the R before a change is in order.

The only thing i don't like about the looks, was my biggest appearance complaint about the R. Those hideous "euro" rear mud flaps. Sure looks great though.
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Sweet !! And it has ABS !!

I looove this color scheme:
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But I love this one even more (it's mine, allllll mine). Maybe I'll put a cool red stripe on the valve covers and a black pinstripe on the tanks.

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rdsmith3 wrote:That's a nice looking bike.

But then the practical side of me kicks in. I think their dealer network makes BMW's seem like H-D's in comparison. Where do you buy one of these and who can service it?
There is only one BMW dealer in Alabama. As far as I can tell there is one fewer M-G dealers. A difference of only ONE may not seem like a lot, but..... :roll: :roll: :roll:
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wncbmw wrote:. . . this bike might be singing it's siren song to me! :smt023
If this is tempting you, you REALLY don't want to read anything about the upcoming Norge sport-tourer. My BMW/Guzzi dealer has seen it, and thinks it is an RT-killer--similar specs, superb design and build quality, and $3000 cheaper. I've straddled the 1100 Breva (the referenced Sport sans fairing) and it is a gorgeous bike, down to the last detail, as you would expect from the Italians. Even the rear hub is beautifully styled, and, imo, nobody does a better job of using accent colors on their machinery than M-G. Hard luggage, as you note, is available, and also looks the part, as if it were specifically designed to complement this particular machine. If I didn't already own a well-loved R1150R, the Breva would be a serious contender for an all-arounder, and if I decide to acquire a full-faired sport tourer, the Norge will be at the top of my list.

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/Article_P ... 687&Page=1

If you're a subscriber to Motorcycle Online, you can read a first-test here:

http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mcyossef/0 ... ndex.motml

I am concerned, as rdsmith3 mentions elsewhere, about the small dealer network. Still, the marque is notoriously reliable (and the valves are self-adjusting!). I'll be interested in viewing the long-term test reports.
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The main thing keeping me from a Guzzi is the dealer network is even sparser than BMW.
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There is only one BMW dealer in Alabama. As far as I can tell there is one fewer M-G dealers. A difference of only ONE may not seem like a lot, but..... :roll: :roll: :roll:
Yes, but be very thankful that the one you have is a very good dealer. They were spectacular when my R1200C left me on the side of I-20 outside Meridian, MS last year (BTW, MS has no BMW dealer). We have three dealers here in Houston and I would still take my R1100R to Lone Star in Austin if it had to go to a dealer.

Fortunately we've also got MPH Cycles. They work on my BMW and are one of the top 'Guzzi dealers in the Country. People bring their bikes from all over the country to have them serviced/repaired here. They fix things right the first time and for a reasonable price.

That being said, everything I have read indicated that Moto Guzzi is very serious about gaining a larger market share in the U.S. They have certainly come out with some tantalizing bikes, and I would expect them to expand their dealer network as well. BMW, however, seems to be going the other way on that end.

Meanwhile, I'm saving my pennies for an ABS 'Guzzi Norge when it hits US shores!!

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munchmeister wrote:Sweet!!
But I love this one even more (it's mine, allllll mine). Maybe I'll put a cool red stripe on the valve covers and a black pinstripe on the tanks.

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I like those painted wheels, did you use a rattle can or have them powder coated??

Thinking of the same but using piedmont red, I've painted wheels before using a can and they came out pretty good.
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You guys are right on the dealer network. We had a dealer locally but they dropped Guzzi due to their strange floor plan policies and the lack of response ordering parts, etc.

Too bad, I like the looks of that bike!
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BoiseBeemer wrote: Still, the marque is notoriously reliable (and the valves are self-adjusting!).
Nope, most of Guzzis bike dont have self adjusting valves. Only a couple of years of the EV model had hydraulic valves and there were huge problems/recalls with them. But, with the jugs hanging out in the open, they're just as easy as a BMW.
I had a Guzzi Breva 750. I had some issues with it and lost faith in it. My R1150R was supposed to be a temporary fill-in until the insurance came down on the Breva 1100. (last years quote on a Breva 1100 was $897. two weeks ago it was down to $487) Now that I've put 3500 miles on the R, not sure what I'll do. It's already an old friend. Dont get me wrong, the R is a great bike but it doesnt speak to my soul like the Guzzi did.
As for Guzzi dealers, yeah, theyre kind of sparse. The local Victory dealer just picked up Guzzi and Vespa so I wont have to drive the 100 miles like I did before. I will definatley wait to see the 1200S before I buy a Breva.
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paroyboy wrote:Nope, most of Guzzis bike dont have self adjusting valves. Only a couple of years of the EV model had hydraulic valves and there were huge problems/recalls with them.
My mistake. I was sure I'd read that factoid somewhere. I'll have to look into it.
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TX2Step wrote:...everything I have read indicated that Moto Guzzi is very serious about gaining a larger market share in the U.S. They have certainly come out with some tantalizing bikes, and I would expect them to expand their dealer network as well. BMW, however, seems to be going the other way on that end.
In Piaggio, Moto Guzzi, like Victory, now has a huge advantage over other would-be legacy-bike initiatives (think Norton and Indian, e.g.): a very successful corporate parent in the motor vehicle business. Victory's sponsorship by snowmobile giant, Polaris, gave it the financial security and corporate stability to survive the initial teething problems, including establishing a viable dealer network. I think Victory is demonstrably over the hump now, and is providing H-D with its first real competition in the market it has always owned. I had Guzzis many, many years ago, and, like you, I'm wistfully hopeful that the marque can become viable in the U.S. Triumph came back from the dead; let's hope Guzzi can pull it off too.

As a side note, I have to wonder if a successful, air/oil-cooled twin, shaft-driven European sport tourer might nudge that other European company we know and love into getting a bit more realistic about their pricing structure. Ahh... we can dream.
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Post by mcollect »

I test rode the 1100 breva, great bike but I bought a RR. It seemed a bit more my style. I still think I'll get a Norge eventually, but I'll wait to see . In the mean time I'll ride the RR and see if I stay in love with her. Thirty years on a guzzi, I think I needed some strange.
Now that Artic Cat dealers can get Aprilia's and Guzzi's the network of dealers will grow. There is a dealer within 15 miles of my home in the boonies of western Md. that carries Aprilia and they said they would get Guzzi's someday. The plus to that is, these people can really wrench!!
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This should say it all........



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Post by Wass »

paroyboy -
Man that's a funny cartoon.
I imagine everybody who sees it here gets it, but I bet .00002% of the general population would get it. Ultimate inside joke. Real funny too.
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Yeah, it was posted on the Guzzi board so I thought I'd share it here. They got it too. :D
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