New (to me) R1200R -- need seat advice

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New (to me) R1200R -- need seat advice

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Picked up an 07 R12R at San Jose BMW today. Very, very nice black with pinstripes. Mint condition. I'm having stability control added.

It has a low seat, and I'm coming from a 12GS and want a tall seat on this bike. I'm 6' ... the regular height seat is OK, but I'd like to go 1/2" to 3/4" taller. Don't want to spend $400 either. :shock:

A swap to a regular/tall would work. What are after-market options that don't cost a fortune?
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Don C wrote:Here's a new tall seat on eBay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... 0621013675
Ya know...I saw that one. Part number doesn't match up, so I PM'd the guy to double check it. It looks right, but I need to know the part number.
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Follow up...bought that ebay seat. perfect for me.
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I happen to know that the the seat that you bought is definitely new and correct for an R1200R. It came from an auction that I was also at. It was from the showroom of Moto Marin. The eBay seller outbid me for that particular seat. I did buy a couple of others and sold them here in the classified section.
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I let this stock Standard Height seat get away from me http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... 3D1&_rdc=1

What I get for having my head shoved up my a$$ #-o
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You can have stability control added ????
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Ric wrote:You can have stability control added ????
Yup. Basically, all the ABS equipped bikes already come with it -- but it's deactivated. What is needed is the left switchgear (with the defeat button) and a code that the service department enters into the computer. The code comes from BMW and is VIN-specific so that we can't hack it to work without paying. The stability control takes the data from the ABS sensors and the engine management system will cut ignition when it thinks it needs to.

Quotes to have it done range from $500 to $700, parts and labor. I got the lower end of the range since I was buying a used bike.
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Don C wrote:I happen to know that the the seat that you bought is definitely new and correct for an R1200R. It came from an auction that I was also at. It was from the showroom of Moto Marin. The eBay seller outbid me for that particular seat. I did buy a couple of others and sold them here in the classified section.
Thanks for the tip! I should have it in a coupla days.
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I believe that DonE attempted to have ASC retrofitted on his `07. It was not possible for his build month. You may want to look for that topic thread here.
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I found a list of chassis numbers somewhere online and mine was after the relevant build date. My bike was built sometime in the fall of 2006...
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ContraMoto wrote:I found a list of chassis numbers somewhere online and mine was after the relevant build date. My bike was built sometime in the fall of 2006...
So was mine - but still undoable. Mine was manufacturered 10/06, and the VIN appeared to be OK. Probably the same list/build date.

Turns out you need a BMS-KP engine module, not the BMS-K that mine has. The switch was actually sometime during early 2007 production. BMW itself is uncertain about the install cutoff date. The only way to REALLY check - pull the tank and see if your engine control module says BMS-K or BMS-KP. KP is the good one.

The only way to do it if you have the original engine module is to replace the module with a new one (you can't use a used one - even though I see them for sale on Flea-Bay, and I actually had one) since they are a one-time programmed to the VIN#. There is no way to reuse one. (That comes from BMW-Motorrad-Germany..)

Good luck with it.

You might suggest to the dealer they check this before they pay BMW the $350 or so they pay for the unlock code. Turns out - it's probably not returnable (they download it, and once downloaded, it's theirs,) so they've just wasted ~$350 (plus the time to R&R the left side control, and try to program it.)

Overall - it cost my dealership something over $600 in time/parts/labor to not install it on my bike. Both of us were unhappy with the result.
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deilenberger wrote:
ContraMoto wrote:I found a list of chassis numbers somewhere online and mine was after the relevant build date. My bike was built sometime in the fall of 2006...
So was mine - but still undoable. Mine was manufacturered 10/06, and the VIN appeared to be OK. Probably the same list/build date.
Yikes. OK -- I'll call them now...
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My VIN ends in 25436. The dealer showed me the BMW technical bulletin that said that the VIN has to be 25572 or higher in order to retrofit ASC. I think my build date was November 2006 but I can't put my hands on that right now.

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lynnboyd wrote:My VIN ends in 25436. The dealer showed me the BMW technical bulletin that said that the VIN has to be 25572 or higher in order to retrofit ASC. I think my build date was November 2006 but I can't put my hands on that right now.

Lynn
Could be right. Mine is 25482 - 10/06 production. Unfortunately - when I they tried mine, it still came up as OK to add with BMW's computer.. even though it wasn't.
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Press release I found...

The list of BMW motorcycle models suitable to be retrofitted with ASC is detailed below:

R 1200 GS from chassis number ZS98694
R 1200 GS Adventure from chassis number ZN98790
R 1200 R from chassis number ZS14531
R 1200 RT from chassis number ZR60266
R 1200 ST from chassis number ZL85554
K 1200 S from chassis number ZR895526
K 1300 S without limitation
K 1200 R from chassis number ZN21739
K 1300 R without limitation
K 1200 GT from chassis number ZN71575
K 1300 GT without limitation

My pending purchase fits this description...but your info seems to say it has to be a higher number. Mine is ZS25424. If your dealer is right, it won't work. My dealer (San Jose) is closed till Tuesday...
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ContraMoto wrote:My pending purchase fits this description...but your info seems to say it has to be a higher number. Mine is ZS25424. If your dealer is right, it won't work. My dealer (San Jose) is closed till Tuesday...
Let us know if you are successful - if so I'll do it to mine, but it doesn't sound promising based on Don's experience.

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SJ BMW confirmed that they cannot add stability control to this bike. I bought it anyway. It's too darn nice (6k miles; black w/pinstripes) and I got for only $8300. Too good to pass up.
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