Strange Behavior This Morning
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tinytrains
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Strange Behavior This Morning
I rolled the bike out this morning and it started right up to it's normal cold idle. About 30 seconds later, it just stopped dead. Hit the starter and all is fine. Weird. Then I get to my first stop light. No one is around so I put it in neutral, get the big N, let out the clutch and it jerks and stalls. It's still in gear, but giving me a neutral light! I found the real neutral and restarted. The rest of my 24 mile commute went normally. It was 49 degrees, which is cold by So Cal standards, but that should not have been a factor.
Anyone else ever have these issues?
Thanks,
Scott
Anyone else ever have these issues?
Thanks,
Scott
Scott Schifer, Torrance CA.
1988 K75 Low Seat
2009 R1200R
1988 K75 Low Seat
2009 R1200R
Re: Strange Behavior This Morning
I've had the second issue once or twice, where the display said it was in neutral but as soon as I let out the clutch it engaged, jerked, and stalled. It wasn't during cold weather either, so I tend to believe that it's just a slight misalignment between the gear position sensor and the actual gears.
If you're really talented, you can get it into a position where the gear display is blank.
I can't speak to the first problem.
If you're really talented, you can get it into a position where the gear display is blank.
I can't speak to the first problem.
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tinytrains
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Re: Strange Behavior This Morning
Now I am spooked about starting it on the side stand in neutral. I guess one should roll it a foot to make sure.
Scott
Scott
Scott Schifer, Torrance CA.
1988 K75 Low Seat
2009 R1200R
1988 K75 Low Seat
2009 R1200R
Re: Strange Behavior This Morning
I get this often.jess wrote:
If you're really talented, you can get it into a position where the gear display is blank.
I haven't had a false neutral yet though. I had the engine shut off once when down shifting from 2nd to 1st gear while rounding a corner. That was a bit scary but it never happened again.
Mike
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highwaymanbw
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Re: Strange Behavior This Morning
I have had the false neutral happen several times in cold weather and had neutral with no light, but always with cool to cold weather. Very difficult to warm the bike up on the side stand.
Re: Strange Behavior This Morning
Yes....I've had that exact thing happen to me; first back in the mid 60's on my Honda and many many times on many different bikes since...it's called motorcycling...... 
10 R1200R
09 KLX 250sf
74 H2
77 RD
69 Kawasaki Bushwacker
67 Kawasaki 120SS
65 CB 450 Black Bomber !
09 KLX 250sf
74 H2
77 RD
69 Kawasaki Bushwacker
67 Kawasaki 120SS
65 CB 450 Black Bomber !
Re: Strange Behavior This Morning
Where's your safety cut-out ? It shouldn't start without the clutch being disengaged.tinytrains wrote:Now I am spooked about starting it on the side stand in neutral. I guess one should roll it a foot to make sure.
Scott
I dropped a CB750 that way.
10 R1200R
09 KLX 250sf
74 H2
77 RD
69 Kawasaki Bushwacker
67 Kawasaki 120SS
65 CB 450 Black Bomber !
09 KLX 250sf
74 H2
77 RD
69 Kawasaki Bushwacker
67 Kawasaki 120SS
65 CB 450 Black Bomber !
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tinytrains
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Re: Strange Behavior This Morning
If it thinks it is in neutral, it will start with the clutch out. If it is really in gear, that will be bad. Since I roll it out of the garage first, I will at least know if it is in gear. Just something to keep in mind for all of us.Ric wrote:Where's your safety cut-out ? It shouldn't start without the clutch being disengaged.tinytrains wrote:Now I am spooked about starting it on the side stand in neutral. I guess one should roll it a foot to make sure.
Scott
I dropped a CB750 that way.
Scott
Scott Schifer, Torrance CA.
1988 K75 Low Seat
2009 R1200R
1988 K75 Low Seat
2009 R1200R
Re: Strange Behavior This Morning
Isn't amazing how easily we come to depend on and trust these gadgets that people rode without for decades. What happened to rolling the bike a little before you kicked (start) it just to check if it was in neutral, or letting the clutch out a little at a light to check for neutral, or just knowing how the trans sounded or felt when it was in neutral.
This is the first and only bike I have with a gear indicator and when I started riding this I figured I just wouldn't look at it. Now when I pull up to a light or stop when I'm on my other bikes I look at the gauge area to see if I'm in neutral, when on the road I look for the indicator instead of the tack to see what gear I'm in. Same with the GPS, I only use it on the Beemer and when I'm on another bike and see an interesting road, instead of looking down the road to see where it goes, I look at the handlebars for the GPS.
I guess this goes back to the list member that thought ABS was a useless farkle, but I'm glad I have a bike in the garage that has one cylinder a headlight,a taillight,a kickstarter,a frame,a tank and fenders just so I can get out and ride a motorcycle now and then and not pilot half a car.
THE POINT: I don't know , just getting old I guess

This is the first and only bike I have with a gear indicator and when I started riding this I figured I just wouldn't look at it. Now when I pull up to a light or stop when I'm on my other bikes I look at the gauge area to see if I'm in neutral, when on the road I look for the indicator instead of the tack to see what gear I'm in. Same with the GPS, I only use it on the Beemer and when I'm on another bike and see an interesting road, instead of looking down the road to see where it goes, I look at the handlebars for the GPS.
I guess this goes back to the list member that thought ABS was a useless farkle, but I'm glad I have a bike in the garage that has one cylinder a headlight,a taillight,a kickstarter,a frame,a tank and fenders just so I can get out and ride a motorcycle now and then and not pilot half a car.
THE POINT: I don't know , just getting old I guess
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2007 R1200R
1974 + 75 CB125S
1971 R75
2020 Guzzi V85TT
BMWMOA 57358
2007 R1200R
1974 + 75 CB125S
1971 R75
2020 Guzzi V85TT
BMWMOA 57358
Re: Strange Behavior This Morning
Yes, it shouldn't.Ric wrote:Where's your safety cut-out ? It shouldn't start without the clutch being disengaged.tinytrains wrote:Now I am spooked about starting it on the side stand in neutral. I guess one should roll it a foot to make sure.
Scott
I dropped a CB750 that way.
... which is why I make a habit of starting the bike with the clutch pulled in. :-)
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- Lewellen
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