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R1150R top box / rack
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:48 pm
by Denis99
Hi
I'm a newbie here who could do with some advice.
I have a 2004 R1150R with the standard BWM rear rack, attached to the pannier rails.
I've also got a Hepco and Becker Junior top box.
Is there a conversion fitting plate for the BMW rack to enable the fitting of the H&B top box?
Image below of the rack.
Thanks in anticipation.

Re: R1150R top box / rack
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:39 pm
by Xdot
Never seen one but HB did used to have a rear rack that bolted directly to the system case handles in place of your rear rack. Welded steel and a lot stronger than that rather flimsy plastic one. I'm not sure they still make it as I haven't seen on for sale in a while.
Re: R1150R top box / rack
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:45 pm
by dechaoz05
looks like u can still get the sw-motech rack with hepco adapter from these 2 places
http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/pr ... /2742/246/
http://www.wunderlichamerica.com/motorc ... 1-732.html
but it does say this on the twistedthrottle site:
Original BMW sidecarrier (and topcarrier) must be removed to use the SW-MOTECH Alu-Rack toprack.
g'luck man!! i ended up getting the givi rack and maxia 55 topcase. givi rack works with the bmw sidecase racks
Re: R1150R top box / rack
Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:16 am
by Denis99
Thanks guys - I'll find something to fit.
The links were very useful.
Regards
Denis
Re: R1150R top box / rack
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 6:24 am
by hank
Best solution I found was the Givi rack part no SR683. This fits to the system rails and adds exta support to the top box. I removed the Givi mounting plate and drilled appropriate holes in the base plate of my Shad top box to allow it to bolt to the Givi rack.
Depending which side of the pond you are on you can purchase one from
http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/pr ... w/789/487/
or from
http://www.motorworks.co.uk/vlive/Shop/ ... 5_90_FN_15
Re: R1150R top box / rack
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 6:54 am
by Denis99
I have found the rack that Xdot mentioned and rang Motorworks to try an source one for me.
Thanks for the heads up on the Givi - I'm from South Wales UK
Re: R1150R top box / rack
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 8:40 am
by kantuckid
Maybe you have what you want-but I use the Pederson luggage mt, fastened to the OEM sidecase frames & have Shad topcase mtd to that.The Pederson is bullet proof. The Shad cases come with a mtg plate included-unlike the GIVI!!! Their mtg hardware will likely mt to the OEM luggage rack if you plat around a bit. My Shad 42 liter case cost very little more than a Givi mtg set up and Shad makes the BMW cases so quality is not an issue.
Re: R1150R top box / rack
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 8:13 pm
by Dr. Strangelove
+1 XDot
I use that HB rack in the place of the silver shelf in your picture. I do use the 41 or 42 liter topcase though, if that makes a difference...I don't know.
It is plug and play with the BMW side case rails and is VERY sturdy and well constructed.
John
Re: R1150R top box / rack
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 4:27 am
by riceburner
Don't know the box - but if it's a relatively small one, save yourself some money and buy a plastic bread-board.
then cut & fit the board to slot tightly into the location the silver rack is in, then drill 4 holes in the box base to locate into the same 4 holes that the rack uprights use to bolt the silver plate to the uprights. To make the whole stiffer, make up a dural plate that goes in the base of the box, with the 4 bolts going through it.
Works fine - I have a 35litre (ish) box on my bike like that, been fine for daily use for the past 4 years or so.

Re: R1150R top box / rack
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:21 am
by Xdot
kantuckid wrote:Maybe you have what you want-but I use the Pederson luggage mt, fastened to the OEM sidecase frames & have Shad topcase mtd to that.The Pederson is bullet proof. The Shad cases come with a mtg plate included-unlike the GIVI!!! Their mtg hardware will likely mt to the OEM luggage rack if you plat around a bit. My Shad 42 liter case cost very little more than a Givi mtg set up and Shad makes the BMW cases so quality is not an issue.
Are they still importing? I tried the Binetto Group website and got a placeholder. The Shad website never materialized. Who is selling their stuff? Me thinks they may be Tango-Uniform.
Re: R1150R top box / rack
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:10 am
by kantuckid
http://www.sportmotogear.com they sell Shad & other stuff for bikes-great place(in TX) that will give you price & service. The main place(wholesale only) is in Miami & they are unfortunately not so great to deal with
Re: R1150R top box / rack
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:20 pm
by n.i.paul
riceburner wrote:Don't know the box - but if it's a relatively small one, save yourself some money and buy a plastic bread-board.
then cut & fit the board to slot tightly into the location the silver rack is in, then drill 4 holes in the box base to locate into the same 4 holes that the rack uprights use to bolt the silver plate to the uprights. To make the whole stiffer, make up a dural plate that goes in the base of the box, with the 4 bolts going through it.
Works fine - I have a 35litre (ish) box on my bike like that, been fine for daily use for the past 4 years or so.

I did this with a universal plate and Givi box. Board cost £2.99, and the flat surface is more stable than the curved silver BMW plate in my opinion.
Re: R1150R top box / rack
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:04 pm
by Denis99
I've found the H%B rack in the UK and ordered it from Motobins - should be with me soon.
http://www.motobins.co.uk/displayfinal. ... itle=HEPCO
Re: R1150R top box / rack
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:46 pm
by Xdot
Awesome.

Re: R1150R top box / rack
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:07 pm
by Denis99
I've received the rack - very prompt from Motobins, and fitted it.
Its very sturdy.
Thanks for all the advice.

Re: R1150R top box / rack
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:53 am
by Rider Rick
Hey now THAT would be neat and I could lash my laptop backpack to that easily, plus you could mount about any rectangular case to that! Need to figure out if Motobin will ship to US or something...(Scurries off)
Re: R1150R top box / rack
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 12:00 pm
by Denis99
more images of the rack.

Re: R1150R top box / rack
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 1:11 pm
by Xdot
Will your H-B case index to the same key that does the system cases?
Re: R1150R top box / rack
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 1:12 pm
by Xdot
Rider Rick wrote:Hey now THAT would be neat and I could lash my laptop backpack to that easily, plus you could mount about any rectangular case to that! Need to figure out if Motobin will ship to US or something...(Scurries off)
If they do we could do a double order and save on shipping?
Re: R1150R top box / rack
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 3:34 pm
by Denis99
Xdot wrote:Will your H-B case index to the same key that does the system cases?
No, the keys don't match up - they are quite different in their cutting shapes.