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A Ride to the North East on my R1200R...

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:19 am
by Lost Rider
I recently took a little ride, ending up on the northern coast of Newfoundland... What a magical place!
Anyways, I have a bunch of images and some video to share... I wanted to share some of them here first since this is my home base!
Once I get all the post production done I'll make a proper report, but for now here's a few images and some unedited video of me riding the Roadster on some beautiful coastal trails. Who needs a GS! :lol:
Honestly if I could get Jesse bags and Tourance tires on the R I wouldn't need my GS....


For some reason I can't embed the video in here so you'll have to view it on the Vimeo site. ( you can download the full HD versions there too if you're bored)
Once again, my R has proven to be 100% reliable and very enjoyable to ride in diverse conditions... including a 2-up portion of the trip... ( with the exception of popping off one of my hard bags while riding some rough whoops too fast on some abandoned RR tracks... but that's my fault)

God, I missed this bike!

http://www.vimeo.com/6710656

http://www.vimeo.com/6713085



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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:35 am
by takemeaway
=D> So nice. Thank you for sharing the wonderful photos. And video. That is some interesting debris on the coast. And i'm not talking about the driftwood. ;)

Re: A Ride to the North East on my R1200R...

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:02 pm
by Lost Rider
Thanks!
Yeah, it's been a busy year for me! :mrgreen:

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Re: A Ride to the North East on my R1200R...

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:16 pm
by tobes
Fantastic photos! =D> Will have to check the video later on.

Re: A Ride to the North East on my R1200R...

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:31 pm
by takemeaway
I think that I am a little behind the times with your adventures. :!: I just finished reading your Baja trip...which seems to have been awhile ago. I just get caught up in the adventures and forget to look at the dates. It was brought home to me in your AdvRider info when you referenced an Alaska trip. I had to do a double take and wonder what rock I have been under!

Great! Now my husband has to deal with me nudging him in the ribs to show him your photos and make him jealous of Alaska, all the while finishing up with RTWDoug's RR.

I'll get out on the road one day and pay you back with some of my own adventures. Until then I will happily drool over my keyboard and enjoy your reports. Ride on!

Re: A Ride to the North East on my R1200R...

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:37 pm
by takemeaway
What a sec!! That far north and didn't take the rest of the way to Prudhoe Bay?? And what about the Trans Labrador Highway?? [-( I guess you will just have to go again... :lol:

Re: A Ride to the North East on my R1200R...

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 3:03 pm
by Lost Rider
takemeaway wrote:What a sec!! That far north and didn't take the rest of the way to Prudhoe Bay?? And what about the Trans Labrador Highway?? [-( I guess you will just have to go again... :lol:

Alaska..... A few thought if I may.

First let me say, if you read the report it was an impromptu trip to Montana that ended up in Alaska - far overbudget...

Anyways, after finally finishing the Alaska Highway portion ( 1500 + miles of boring riding, if you saw the first 10 miles you saw it all...) with no choice of road, only forward, I then did the Dempster to the Arctic Circle, snapped the photo's and turned around. Looped into Alaska for a day, staying in Chicken and high tailed it south. I got nothing to prove by riding thousands more miles down a poo road with no choices, and scenery that isn't as interesting as most of the western states (CO, UT, AZ, CA, OR, MT, etc).
Riding to Alaska and Prudhoe Bay seems to be this big ultimate adventure, but I found the single roads with gas and supplies neatly laid out made it feel like one of those amusement park car rides with the track in the middle. Want to to go explore some logging roads? Nope, there is few or none...
The feeling of truly being far far away was magnificent on the Dempster where the sun was high at 2am, but hard to say if it was worth the time and money, and monotony to get there.
Let's not even talk about $30 gas fill ups, $16 packs of smokes, $15 cheeseburgers, $250 rear tires, $200 chains, etc....
It was enjoyable none the less, but because of the people and friends I made along the way... the rest was just OK and real expensive. I see it as a trophy ride for bragging rites.
IMHO, there's better adventures to be had in the western united states, and I highly doubt I'll ride back up there.
Also, my R would have been a much better bike for the ride for many reasons, especially since I could have done the whole ride with just an oil change and simple valve adjustment compared to the 3 oil changes, and constant chain maintenance needed on my GS... and that's not even getting into the issues I had with the GS.

This opinion transferred over to the choice I had when I was near the Labrador ferry in Newfoundland. I quickly decided that the experience and beauty found in Newfoundland greatly overrode the need to ride the trans lab on my R... I'm over destination/no choice of route rides really - I'm a wanderer that wants to have a choice. Pavement, dirt, left, right, up, down...

I hope I didn't bust anyone Alaska bubble, I think most who go love the ride and I'm not exactly normal...

Re: A Ride to the North East on my R1200R...

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:14 pm
by grapeman!
Welcome back! ChiTown :)

Re: A Ride to the North East on my R1200R...

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:21 pm
by takemeaway
LOL. Yep. Bubble burst. :lol: I agree, I would have expected many side roads to traverse through the BC, Yukon and Alaskan wilderness. Sorry to learn there wasn't. Also sorry to hear the GS is causing problems. I hope they can get it fixed.

Re: A Ride to the North East on my R1200R...

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:27 pm
by Reggiebooze
What video camera are you using? Are you happy with it? It looks pretty easy to activate while riding.. or at least to turn off.

Re: A Ride to the North East on my R1200R...

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:55 am
by Eagle
Chi - nice post about Alaska. How did you enjoy the western Canadian provinces?

Re: A Ride to the North East on my R1200R...

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 5:49 am
by redwing
Impressive ride ChiTown... lots of miles and lots to see. I saw from your map you went what looked like the Continential Divide, the western part of Montana. You must have spent as much time going up as down. Did you have any fade in your brakes going down hill? Seems like you would have to ride the brakes for some time going downhill.
Also did you make it by Glacier Park due east of the Continential Divide? I hear there is a road called 'Going To The Sun Road' or Glacier Rt.1 in Glacier Park. Did you ride Rt.1?
In all fairness, you'll have to wait to make another ride until I make a ride somewheres with lots of stuff to see... you do want to be fair??? 8)

Robert

Re: A Ride to the North East on my R1200R...

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 11:18 am
by Meatloaf
redwing wrote:You must have spent as much time going up as down. Did you have any fade in your brakes going down hill? Seems like you would have to ride the brakes for some time going downhill.
I rarely touch my brakes going downhill in the mountains. Engine braking is more than adequate.

John

Re: A Ride to the North East on my R1200R...

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 2:59 pm
by ShinySideUp
Reggiebooze wrote:What video camera are you using? Are you happy with it? It looks pretty easy to activate while riding.. or at least to turn off.
Yeah, and I was impressed with the image stability over rough terrain. Is that built in to the camera, or was the helmet mount responsible?

One of the distraction of motorcycle videos is the loud wind noise. Your video handled that well until you picked up some speed. Have you ever experimented with placing a mic facing backwards, maybe inside a funnel shield, down by the exhaust to capture the engine notes and minimize wind noise?

Fun video and I enjoyed your hitting that one puddle so fast that the water came up onto your camera lens!

Re: A Ride to the North East on my R1200R...

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:36 pm
by Lost Rider
ShinySideUp wrote:
Reggiebooze wrote:What video camera are you using? Are you happy with it? It looks pretty easy to activate while riding.. or at least to turn off.
Is that built in to the camera, or was the helmet mount responsible?

One of the distraction of motorcycle videos is the loud wind noise. Your video handled that well until you picked up some speed. Have you ever experimented with placing a mic facing backwards, maybe inside a funnel shield, down by the exhaust to capture the engine notes and minimize wind noise?

It's a VholR Contour HD camera - no IS, just stable from being on my helmet. Very easy to use, and makes decent video for $300
It does not offer an external mic input so what I have is what I get.
I do however have an external mic to use when shooting HD video on my 5D2, though I didn't have enough storage space for the Canon's HD file's on this trip. We'll see what the future brings for me and video....

redwing wrote:Impressive ride ChiTown... lots of miles and lots to see. I saw from your map you went what looked like the Continential Divide, the western part of Montana. You must have spent as much time going up as down. Did you have any fade in your brakes going down hill? Seems like you would have to ride the brakes for some time going downhill.
Also did you make it by Glacier Park due east of the Continential Divide? I hear there is a road called 'Going To The Sun Road' or Glacier Rt.1 in Glacier Park. Did you ride Rt.1?
In all fairness, you'll have to wait to make another ride until I make a ride somewheres with lots of stuff to see... you do want to be fair??? 8)

Robert

When I was on Bear Tooth Pass outside of yellowstone ( the most spectacular ride-able mountain pass IMO) I had no problems with brake fading.... I took it easy on the way up, and since I was there late in the day, on the way down where I could see the entire road, and lack of traffic, I didn't need the brakes much since I was just on the throttle coming down at warp speeds> I've never felt any significant brake fading on the R, but I've not been a track with it either.

I did not go to Glacier or Going to the Sun HWY. Again, I've been there( it's quite beautiful), but now choose to have free, unrestricted riding instead of heavy traffic, cops, and rules found in the park.


Eagle wrote:Chi - nice post about Alaska. How did you enjoy the western Canadian provinces?


Well, if it wouldn't have been raining so much in BC I could have seen more.... I liked the people I met along the way, I liked Jasper and Banff, but like most big, spectacular US parks, the crowds were stifling. I've concluded that if you want to see things from a bike, not battle the crowds, and not hike in, you're better off outside of national parks where you'll have some fire roads and what not available. But again I like off the beaten path.




This next part is something I posted over on ADV with all my recent 8GS problems, I thought I'd share it here since it's very relevant to the R1200R....
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthre ... 09&page=47


Let me back up a little bit and share my road thoughts about my bikes...
Since I'm so behind on the meat of my story - photographs and tales from the road - it will be hard to not bring some of that into this.... explanation.

After my ride to Newfoundland on my R, the first long ride I've had on it since the GS, I had already realized that the GS wasn't really the bike I need.
I banged out 2000+ miles in a matter of days to get into Newoundland with ease on my R with a small screen, greatly enjoying being in clean air without that big plastic thing in front of me.
I had really forgotten how wonderfully perfect this bike is, being distracted by the mighty GS with it's crazy looks that promise Adventure and nice snarling exhaust.
Anyways, when in Newfoundland I toured the tarmac in great comfort at a very nice, safe, pace, taking in all the sights, and then took the R on some gravel roads, two tracks trails like you saw in the video, some hiking trails (yes hiking trails), rode a portion of the T-Rail (an abandoned rail road track with deep gravel) with 4WD ATV's, and various unimproved roads.
This kind of riding is all I want out any 400+ pound bike.... 12R, 12GS, 8GS, KTM 990 or 950, etc, etc.... I mean, I've been in some rougher stuff than this, but really how fun is it picking up a loaded touring bike, no matter what model?
Why do I need 2 bikes that can do the same thing?
The R does the roads substantially better.... With the exception of Mengle Pass, and a COUPLE of other places out of the 23,000 miles on the GS, the R could do it, just maybe not quite as fast in places
The R is perfect, rides wonderfully, 100% reliable, easy maintenance (6,000 mile between oil changes) I can do myself, and is, well, a piece of art that is a modern classic. She's a beauty.

I guess what I'm saying is my love for the R is obvious, for obvious reasons, and I don't need another Touring Adventure bike, I've had the best one for me all along.

As for the GS I have never "abused" it, I just rode it doing the exact thing it's designed for and heavily marketed as doing - Adventure Dual Sport bike. Unfortunately my particular GS has not proven to be able to take what I consider very normal usage.... maybe this transmission issue I'm having now will be fixed and the bike will be all fine and dandy for the rest of time....

SO, knowing I already have a very capable ADV touring bike in my R, and then combined with the ongoing issues in the GS, getting rid of it is the obvious solution..... but I don't know what I'm going to do about the GS, my issues don't fall under any lemon laws, and on the used market I'm going to really get hoot... would you buy my bike?
Maybe there's someone out there who doesn't know of ADVrider.com....


With all that said, once I figure out how to get rid of the GS for many reasons I've decided that the easiest solution to my "what bike" issues, not needing another ADV touring bike, is to change MY location.... so I'm moving to California, and doing what I should have been done a while ago - buying a proper dirt bike instead of trying to have a do-it-all bike with too many compromises.
Take the need to cover great distances out of the equation and this is what I've got. Living here I won't need to do any Iron Butt rides to get into some mountain trail or desert riding, so I won't need to have a 400+pound bike to lug around the trails... My R can fulfill my adv touring needs with light DS riding easily.
An XR450 or 650, KTM 450, etc. can be my local (entire SW) exploring bike packed super light....... then maybe I'll need some kind of classic 60's bike to look cool on, and then a supermotard bike for the track and canyons... and then maybe Ural... does it ever end?



I'm really wanting to get this whole bike discussion/drama over with and get on with my frikin' Newfoundland story... a happy story.
I start work tomorrow and will have time in the evenings in my hotel room so expect a real update very soon.

For those of you considering a 8GS, don't think that what's happened to my GS is normal, because it's really not from what I've read.... I just happen to have a big hoot mouth.... go over to Beasts or that other f-something site and sift through the crap and come up with your own opinion whether this bike is for you.



If I can only have one, I choose the R1200R.
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Re: North East on my R1200R... now you're talking

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:44 am
by Bodes
Chitown,

I have had a similar experience to you. Had a R1200R for 18 months, put on over 48,000 k's decided I was going to do the Adv thing. In fact wrote to you on another forum because I was torn between the F800Gs & R1200Gs. Ended up with the 1200 because I just couldn't let go of the extra HP & torque & I love the boxer engine.

Did the BMW Adv course and realised that picking that behemoth up unladen a few times a day was a chore beyond pleasure - let alone if I went fully kitted up on a real outback adventure in Australia. Before I parted with the GS after 3 months had done 12,000 k's so I gave it a fair go but remained uninspired and unconvinced even tho I know thousands love it passionately.

Went back to an '09 R1200R and I'm in love all over again. Next set of tyres will be something more suitable for gravel roads as well as tar. Perhaps Tourance or similar. A bash plate, Zumo 550 and the right clothing will take care of the adventure bit and the rest of the time I prefer the direct feel and handling of the 12R to the GS; not to say it's just a more fun and less ugly bike. Each to their own.

The amazing thing is there are other bikes I lust for but the R1200R is the right bike for soooo many reasons it must be the most underrated bike on the road.

Re: A Ride to the North East on my R1200R...

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:05 am
by Lost Rider
Very well said Bodes. Unfortunately this process to end up right where you started is something a person has to learn for themselves and all the reading online wont change that.

Cheers.

Re: A Ride to the North East on my R1200R...

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:33 pm
by Mollygrubber
The amazing thing is there are other bikes I lust for but the R1200R is the right bike for soooo many reasons it must be the most underrated bike on the road.
That is so true. I agonized over this decision - so many worthy competitors...

Triumph Tiger, Street Triple

KTM Adventure, SuperDuke

Ducati Multistrada (almost got me), GT1000

etc etc etc etc...

This one underwhelmed me a bit at first (being honest here, back off), but has really grown on me as I have learned to trust it.

I have toured WAY farther than I ever have before.

I have cornered way harder than I ever have before.

I have braked way deeper than I ever have before (BTW, I used to ride an FZR750).

I have grinned more than I ever have before.

And I haven't even scratched what Joe has done!

It's a truly great bike, in the strongest sense of the word.

So why do people always talk to my wife about her F650GS when we stop?

Ignorant heathens is my guess.