BMW R1200R R1150R/T F800 K1200R R1100R/T R1250R RnineT Message Board

Hello everyone. First post.

I currently ride a 2006 FJR1300AE. I have 16,000 miles on her. I’ve been looking into the R1200R as a possible replacement.

I have a general question for current owners: is there any type of “buzz” or vibration in the handlebars? I’ve read in some “pro” reviews there is and I was hoping to get some feedback on the severity. I read it was at highway cruising speeds (e.g. around 70mph).

Thanks for any info and other comments.

818Guy wrote:Hello everyone. First post.

I currently ride a 2006 FJR1300AE. I have 16,000 miles on her. I’ve been looking into the R1200R as a possible replacement.

I have a general question for current owners: is there any type of “buzz” or vibration in the handlebars? I’ve read in some “pro” reviews there is and I was hoping to get some feedback on the severity. I read it was at highway cruising speeds (e.g. around 70mph).

Thanks for any info and other comments.

You will know the engine is running - but I have sensitive hands (carpel tunnel and some other nerve damage) - and the vibrations on the R12R have not been a problem. BMW added the balance shaft to the R12 engines and it works.. compared to the buzz and numbness I experienced with my '04 1150 - the R12R is simply wonderful. At 70MPH in 6th gear - you'll be going somewhere around 4,000 RPM - and that is a sweet spot with this engine.

If you think it would be a concern - visit a dealer and take one for a test ride (take your checkbook and the FJR title.. ) A 30 minute ride on it will tell you more than we can possibly tell you.

If it is bothersome to you (I very much doubt that it will be) - I have larger diameter foam grip covers (go over the stock grips) that help my hands by not requiring as tight a grip. There are also heavier bar-end weights available from various sources which can damp and move vibration peaks around (used these with limited success on my '04 R1150RS..)

For me - it's been a non-issue. Done all-day slab rides and been quite comfortable.

I don't notice any buzz either.
Mark

They vibrate but then it's a big twin. Have done many long rides and it's no problem at all. I have tried mounting a camera to the bars to shoot video. The end result was a very blurry vid!

Hey tobes.... another L.A. rider.

I'm checking out a black R1200R at BMW of Ventura tomorrow.

Good thing my FJR is in for service. No "temptation".

Thanks for the replies everyone.

I was looking at that very bike this past Saturday 818. I was at that dealership getting my 6000 mile service done. I purchased mine from Hollywood. Ventura is a much better dealership. Seems like a really good group of people there. They have great coffee too.

818Guy wrote:Hello everyone. First post.

I currently ride a 2006 FJR1300AE. I have 16,000 miles on her. I’ve been looking into the R1200R as a possible replacement.

I have a general question for current owners: is there any type of “buzz” or vibration in the handlebars? I’ve read in some “pro” reviews there is and I was hoping to get some feedback on the severity. I read it was at highway cruising speeds (e.g. around 70mph).

Thanks for any info and other comments.

There is definitely some vibration. It will be more than you are used to on a big 4, but take a ride and see.

hmmm... thanks Dan-A. Don't know when I'll take it for a test ride, just going to sit on it today and see how I like the "fit" for my body.

Well, had a chance to see the bike in person as well as sit on it.

With the low seat, it's almost perfect. I really like the motorcycle.

Therefore my question for current owners is: how much room is there for negotiation on price?

This particular R1200R has the Comfort Package ($650) and ABS ($1100). With MSRP + destination + options + dealer set-up ($485) = $15,350.

Also, I've read about Chicago BMW giving a 20% discount off of accessories. Is that all the time? Or would I have to enter a special discount code? Admittedly I have not been to their site yet.

Thanks.

It sounds like that model is similarly setup to mine (though I don't have the white turn indicators) and is priced in the same ball park that mine was. Hollywood was offering $1000 off when I got this model in October (so I jumped on it). From what I hear BMW doesn't move much on prices though. But it's worth a try and you may be able to negotiate some free or discounted gear. Or maybe even get the break-in 600 mile service discounted or free. Good luck!

.....I am from Bay Area, CA....here is what I have paid for 08 R12R 3 month ago at SF BMW

08 R 1200R - Heated grips, computer, ABS, clear turn signals, center stand, sports windshield - $16,000.00 OTD (this includes taxes, license and all other fees)
I also got 600mi service thrown in.

Everybody gets a 20% discount on accessories and apperell when they buy a bike (usually it's only valid on the same day....my dealer was good enough to extend this for a month).....so this is not just because the dealer likes you:-). You also get a permanent 10% discount on everything in the dealership. All this is in writing on one of the documents when you buy a bike.

It took me about 2 weeks of negotiation through email.....and about 1 hour at the dealership. They originally wanted $14,850 (includes destination) for a bike + $310.00 for shield (includes install) + $1,500.00 tax and license = $16,660.00 (not including the 600mi service)

So as you can see I was only able to cut $660.00 and 600mi service (about $350-$450). Their margins are pretty slim (i have seen their invoice....BTW...by law in CA they must show you what they have paid for a bike....if you ask them.....nicely:-)

....although your wallet will get a little lighter....I guarantee that you will enjoy the bike.

Good luck.......

Graf wrote:Everybody gets a 20% discount on accessories and apperell when they buy a bike (usually it's only valid on the same day....my dealer was good enough to extend this for a month).....so this is not just because the dealer likes you:-). You also get a permanent 10% discount on everything in the dealership. All this is in writing on one of the documents when you buy a bike.

This is a dealer policy - not BMW policy.. most dealers will give a new bike customer a discount on parts and accessories ordered at the time of the bike sale. Some go beyond that (our local dealer helps support our club by giving us a 10% discount for club members.) ChicagoBMW is great because they give 20% off prices to everyone. No qualification needed.. Hammersley also gives a discount - don't recall how much off-hand.

deilenberger wrote:

Graf wrote:Everybody gets a 20% discount on accessories and apperell when they buy a bike (usually it's only valid on the same day....my dealer was good enough to extend this for a month).....so this is not just because the dealer likes you:-). You also get a permanent 10% discount on everything in the dealership. All this is in writing on one of the documents when you buy a bike.

This is a dealer policy - not BMW policy.. most dealers will give a new bike customer a discount on parts and accessories ordered at the time of the bike sale. Some go beyond that (our local dealer helps support our club by giving us a 10% discount for club members.) ChicagoBMW is great because they give 20% off prices to everyone. No qualification needed.. Hammersley also gives a discount - don't recall how much off-hand.

I didn't say that this is BMW policy.......my dealer simply told me that everybody gets this discount.....so I assumed he was talking about all dealerships......

I just went to ChicagoBMW website......seems like it's mainly under construction.......they have no pic's for any of the parts?!?.....like I said...maybe they are still working on it.....20% sure sounds like a GREAT deal:-)

Graf wrote:I didn't say that this is BMW policy.......my dealer simply told me that everybody gets this discount.....so I assumed he was talking about all dealerships......

I realized you didn't say it was BMW policy - but someone reading it might assume it was. So.. thought I'd clear that up. It's a dealership decision (as BMW likes to tell us - dealerships are independent businesses with their own policies etc.)

I just went to ChicagoBMW website......seems like it's mainly under construction.......they have no pic's for any of the parts?!?.....like I said...maybe they are still working on it.....20% sure sounds like a GREAT deal:-)

You can look up part numbers on the web at http://www.realoem.com - then plug the PN into Chicago BMW's website. They do not have a glitzy website with lovely page after page of farkles and parts - but they do have the best prices I've found on the web. They often do not carry items in stock - so if you need it RIGHT NOW, you're better off going elsewhere. If you can wait a bit for something - the 20% discount is real, and shipping is usually about what sales tax costs in NJ..

Thanks again everyone for the info. I did go to Chicago BMW and found the same "problem". If I didn't know the part number I had no way of checking prices.

Well, the plan is to test ride a R1200R and a K1200R tomorrow. Saw the K12R recently and I really like the looks. Not necessarily what I may "need" but that is one cool looking bike.

Interesting thing, though, called my insurance company and the quoted me almost double to insure the K12R vs. the R12R. I was shocked. I haven't shopped around but it was an eye-opener for me.

Plastic tank cover (K) vs real metal tank (R) , too long wheel base (K) vs just right and in there with the best of squids in the twisties (R) (If R rider cohones are present). R simplicity and tradition. These are the things that caused me to choose the R over the K. I have never regreted my choice.
Mark

THIS WILL MAKE SOME OF YALL MAD --BUT THATS OK -- REFERENCE THE K BIKE-- INLINE FOUR CYLINDER BIKES REGARDLESS OF BRAND---- HAVE NO SOUL,,, THEYRE LIKE RIDIN A SEWING MACHINE WHETHER ITS 30 MPH OR 140 MPH........ WHO SAYS THAT? I SAID THAT --- WILDPIG --A LIFETIME OF RIDING MOST EVER THANG ON PLANET EARTH THAT HAS 2 WHEELS.......................

Pig, Your remark is not that inflammatory a remark considering the forum it was stated in. I reckon if we wanted inline 4s we would buy them.
Mark

So how'd the test rides go?