Hey folks,
Maybe I missed this somewhere along the way, but can anyone tell me why some R's have a black cylindrical can on the right side of the bike, just below the seat, and others don't? Mine does not have it and funny enough, I've just noticed an R in the area that does. After looking at a few pics it seems that some bikes do...some don't.
Maybe there's a blatantly obvious answer, so go easy on me...now if I could only remember where I put the darn remote as well.......
Here in the U.S., all the bikes are sold with the charcoal cannister to meet California emissions. I'm not sure how it applies in Canada or if yours was removed by the previous owner.
Thanks Buckster.
Mine was bone stock from the dealer floor, so maybe it is indeed a Canada thing. Although there's plenty of R-bikes in Canada that have the cannsiter on them so who knows..maybe it was a dealer thing?
If you read the sticker that is under the seat, you bike model and emissions certification level is shown on that sticker. Also, the emissions system routing is shown as well. If a vapor recovery canister was installed at the time of manufacturer, it will be shown on the sticker. If the VRC is missing, your motorcycle has been modified and may be illegal.
AirForceDirt wrote:After searching for a bit, I haven't found anything on the subject, so I'll pose the question.
Is it legal to remove said cannister? And how would one go about doing that if one could?
It's probably borderline illegal, but something that would never be enforced. The canister is basically an air filter for the gas tank. It stops gas fumes from escaping from the tank from the vent, but lets air in as fuel is used so there isn't a vacuum in the tank. Removing it doesn't really have much effect other than a little pollution and your garage may smell like gas. As for the weight, I'm sure the time spent would be be better used working out and losing the kilo from my waist.
I removed the cannister from both of my R1150 bikes. The main reason is they occationally get clogged with fuel. When that happens, the bike may quit running due to a vacuum forming in the tank. You will hear a "whoosh" when you open the filler door. Also, on RT's, it can collapse the fuel level sensor, ruining it. To remove, do a search and you'll find instructions. If you can't find it, re-post the question.
Al
Ogden, Utah
2002 R1150RT
2004 R1150R (sold) (sigh...)
2004 R 1150GS
Dave, You should have used 1 rubber cap on the T fitting between the hoses that go to each TB. Put it on the leg that goes to the solenoid valve. That way, there's a balance tube between the cylinders to smooth out any micro errors in the TB synchronization.
In place of a rubber plug, you can also use a 3/4" length of hose with a large enough ball or roller bearing pushed in the open end. A short threaded screw smeared with gasket sealer also works.
I'm prolly the only advocate for keeping the canister on the bike because my bike sometimes is put away hot in a closed garage. I don't care about the EPA emissions, just the smells, and it's symbiotic, no penalty existence. It's only fault is it's visibility. The extra weight is equivalent to taking a good crap. I relocated it seven years ago to the non ABS pocket under the fueltank. Still silently doing a great job. When I first found out my new bike would have a charcoal canister vapor recovery system, I was pleased, knowing the benefits and minuscule efficiency gain it would provide.
Somehow, my black canister got loose of the bracket it rests on and was hanging freely next to my rear tire. No idea how it came loose. After a 40 mile highway trip I smelled rubber burning when I got off the bike. The can had been rubbing against the tire and black rubber shavings were all over my rear wheel and swingarm and the extreme right edge of my tire now has a wear mark down to the threads. I estimate that about 3/8 to 1/2 inch of rubber was worn off. I have used my bike a few times since, but I am worried about the tire and will have to replace it. The canister simply rests on a bracket, it can be lifted up and off of it with a little force. Stupid design.
My black canister got clogged so badly that I needed a flat screwdriver in order to open the fuel tank.
The amount of vacuum accumulated in the gas tank was so high, I am surprised that my fuel tank did not collapse.
It probably did just a bit. So, in my case "canisterectomy" was a necessity.
The reason for the canister damage was due to the lines crossing. Was my bad.
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2002 R1150R
2004 R1150 ABS
2003 F650 CSA
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