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Re: 6K Service Disappointment

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:13 am
by GBag
A 2012 service manual is so recent it isn't likely to be found anywhere but at a dealers parts department. It's listed at $108.54 perhaps a touch more with tax if you pay it. The Part # is 01 59 7 721 691. It will pay for itself in labor savings the very first time you use it.

Re: 6K Service Disappointment

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:28 am
by Lost Rider
I keep forgetting about the new 12' models... and can't keep track of who owns what. :D
What GBag said, probably will have to buy the SM from BMW being so new.... a cheap investment for the long haul and peace of mind.
I haven't looked it up, but I wonder if JVB has a new video for the cam-head motor. If not, his video does you about as much good as an 09' service manual, some things will be the same I'd imagine, some things not and only those who have self maintained both bikes could tell you where the differences are.
Good luck.

Re: 6K Service Disappointment

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 1:07 pm
by Bamblys
He does have a new video. I ordered it. But like you said there's a whole bunch of corrections on his website so I would like a real thing.
Can I also ask where you usually buy these BMW specific tools. Like spark plug puller and other things i might need? My guess is at the BMW parts...

Thanks for all the help. Right now i don't have any maintenance coming up soon, but i want to get ready for a next time I'll need it.

Re: 6K Service Disappointment

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 1:31 pm
by Lost Rider
The only specialized tool I have is the oil filter socket and the tool to remove the front wheel axle.
I ordered generic .15 and .30 feeler gauges online for a few bucks (not needed for your fancy cam head I believe :D ) and make do with basic tools for the rest. I pull the spark plugs with large needle nose pliers.
I bought a cheap sex of torx sockets on ebay for the mission critical bolts that need to be torqued correctly, along with these I carry and use for most things:
http://www.amazon.com/Motion-Pro-Hex-Se ... motorcycle

Check out beemerboneyard.com, I think they have an oil kit that comes with the filter socket.
A beauty supply bottle like JVB uses to measure various oils.
I have one of these torque wrenches, works great for me going on 5 years, though there's plenty of choices out there.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00065T0XC/ref ... B00065T0XC


Besides saving money, and probably doing a better job than a stealer, doing your own maintenance gives you intimate knowledge of the bike's workings, if you ever need to trouble shoot while on the road that's a good thing.
Good luck!

Re: 6K Service Disappointment

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:01 am
by Bamblys
I went out and got the torque wrench from Sears and a day later comes in this JVB DVD. And guess what? All torques are in nm on that dvd and my torque wrench is primarily in Ft pounds. I might have to go and find a better fitting one.
I watched the dvd all the way thru and you do need those feelers, but you don't adjust rockers you change some spacers instead.
Do you use a GS-911. It's a bit expensive for just a casual user like myself. I don't have 3 bikes, but i hear you need to adjust the throttle bodies regularly.

Re: 6K Service Disappointment

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:22 am
by Lost Rider
Yeah, all the torque's in my BMW DVD are in NM too, good thing Sears has a great return policy. :D
I don't have a GS-911, I'm sure it would be useful but never wanted to make the investment. I can't comment on how the new Camhead motor is of course, but it had been at least 20,000 miles since my last throttle body sync and when I recently checked mine thanks to a Twinmax I received from board member waynematthews they were only off a half a bar, hardly out of sync. YYMV.
I paid $30, after my recent DIY full service before my blast to Chicago and back, to my local dealer to hook up my bike to the mothership's computer to check faults and reset the service indicator. They just found a ABS fault, which I expected since my ABS BRAKE warning light had come on a few times on my off tarmac adventures when the front sensor was caked with dust.

Speaking of, since I have this Twinmax, a tool not needed very often, if any donating member in good standing has a service coming up they'd like to do them self, shoot me a PM, I'll be happy to loan it out.

Re: 6K Service Disappointment

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 11:34 am
by roger l
I have a FT-LB torque wrench and I just made a simple conversion chart using Excell. 1 NM is .7376 FT-LBS. So if the manual calls for 25 NMs just take 25 X .7376 = 18.44 FT-LBS. Set the torque wrench to 18.5 and you are good to go. I keep the table in my manual so I have it when I am working on the bike.

Roger L

Re: 6K Service Disappointment

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:22 pm
by Bamblys
Mine has a NM scale on it too, just that it is geared towards Ft pounds so it clicks every 0.7 NM it's just not convenient it's an afterthought. I figure if I'm paying for a new thing i should get the right one. I'll go and change it.

Re: 6K Service Disappointment

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:47 pm
by BLAIR1200R
Thought I'd just thrash this post with boring pictures of my oil draining ...

I drained just under .5 quart of oil and the picture of the sight glass shows how far the level was reduced. It's a hair over mid level and since it takes .5 quart to move the level from bottom to top of the circle, I guess it wasn't too severly overfilled... but I feel better now that I can see the level.

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..onward toward peak riding season :arrow: