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DJ Downunder
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...thanks for the link Bob.
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Marecycling,
I have a Remus Y-pipe on mine with the stock muffler, but I think what you want is the Y-pipe with a short extension. All the cruiser guys I have ridden with don't bother with the muffler. I don't think any of these other setups is going to give you the safety margin you are looking for.
It's REALLY loud without the CAT or Muffler.
I have a Remus Y-pipe on mine with the stock muffler, but I think what you want is the Y-pipe with a short extension. All the cruiser guys I have ridden with don't bother with the muffler. I don't think any of these other setups is going to give you the safety margin you are looking for.
It's REALLY loud without the CAT or Muffler.
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boxermania
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marecycling.....obviously your question was highly complex and merited a lot of diferent sugestions.
Your best bet is to remove the can and replace it with a $4 exhaust tip extension ala DJ..............
Regarding the safety issue please insure that you have your inflatable, Coast Guard approved flotation device before you ride.......
Your best bet is to remove the can and replace it with a $4 exhaust tip extension ala DJ..............
Regarding the safety issue please insure that you have your inflatable, Coast Guard approved flotation device before you ride.......
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Pat
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marecycling,
Wet, dry, lumpy farts aside (gotta love it though),
"sewing machines" & whirring noises,
YOUR desire to construe more exhaust noise as a "safety issue",
brakes with leather tassels (love it, make mine purple)........
We each have our own opinions, likes and dislikes, and obtuse humor.
I'll attempt to address your query, and offer you THE set-up you've been looking for:
Buy a "Y-pipe" CAT' eliminator, and a Supertrapp can with internal discs. Your bike will run GREAT with as few as 6 discs (quieter), and will become rather peaky with 12 or more discs (louder). If 13 discs isn't loud enough for you, you can opt' for the "off road"/"racing" open end-cap (loudest), but you start to losing/compromising low-end torque and mid-range with more discs and an open end-cap.
If you want a lower/sexier exhaust note, buy a CAT' eliminator with a chamber that fills that void between your center-stand and the bottom of your engine. Staintune makes one that is not only VERY attractive, but VERY expensive. It will have a lower exhaust note, but won't be as loud as the straight Y-pipe design.
With regard to exhaust noise offering you increased safety, some people run with their high beam on, some with their low beam, others with a BRIGHT triangle of light.... for "safety" reasons. Some riders have their favorite helmet, rabbit's foot, or ritual of picking their butt while standing up on the foot-pegs before a race. It works for them, who is to say what works for you?
Personally, I blip the throttle of my loud bike (when I'm sporting "loud") to get the attention of a cager (in town) that may be thinking about pulling out in front of me. It works for me.
Go with what ya know, and don't be afraid to post anymore questions; we have all sorts here..... to include the colorful personalities who chimed in on your fart thread.......
Wet, dry, lumpy farts aside (gotta love it though),
"sewing machines" & whirring noises,
YOUR desire to construe more exhaust noise as a "safety issue",
brakes with leather tassels (love it, make mine purple)........
We each have our own opinions, likes and dislikes, and obtuse humor.
I'll attempt to address your query, and offer you THE set-up you've been looking for:
Buy a "Y-pipe" CAT' eliminator, and a Supertrapp can with internal discs. Your bike will run GREAT with as few as 6 discs (quieter), and will become rather peaky with 12 or more discs (louder). If 13 discs isn't loud enough for you, you can opt' for the "off road"/"racing" open end-cap (loudest), but you start to losing/compromising low-end torque and mid-range with more discs and an open end-cap.
If you want a lower/sexier exhaust note, buy a CAT' eliminator with a chamber that fills that void between your center-stand and the bottom of your engine. Staintune makes one that is not only VERY attractive, but VERY expensive. It will have a lower exhaust note, but won't be as loud as the straight Y-pipe design.
With regard to exhaust noise offering you increased safety, some people run with their high beam on, some with their low beam, others with a BRIGHT triangle of light.... for "safety" reasons. Some riders have their favorite helmet, rabbit's foot, or ritual of picking their butt while standing up on the foot-pegs before a race. It works for them, who is to say what works for you?
Personally, I blip the throttle of my loud bike (when I'm sporting "loud") to get the attention of a cager (in town) that may be thinking about pulling out in front of me. It works for me.
Go with what ya know, and don't be afraid to post anymore questions; we have all sorts here..... to include the colorful personalities who chimed in on your fart thread.......
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So what would happen if one was to run JUST the staintune collector box, and no can? It would look great, and be probably loud as hell....
But, would the fuel injection keep up with the flow, would it lean itself out or would you simply lose out on all of your low and mid end torque?
I think if this would work it would be the way to go for him....
But, would the fuel injection keep up with the flow, would it lean itself out or would you simply lose out on all of your low and mid end torque?
I think if this would work it would be the way to go for him....
Here's one way of looking at "Loud Pipes Save Lives"
My experience in driving emergency vehicles for over 21 years shows that most people don't even hear the LOUDEST of sirens, tack on flashing lights and wig wag headlights and guess what...still nothing. Part of the problem is that most of the sirens are mounted on the light bar, on the roof. The vehicle is usually traveling quickly and the sound projected forward is minimal. The change of placing the siren horn in the front grill has helped somewhat, but nothing spectacular. You're talking capabilities of 124 decibels for top rated sirens.
My point is that the exhaust note of a motorcycle is projected to the REAR of the motorcycle, NOT FORWARD, (like a siren). The decibel level and tone would have to be insanely loud in order for a motorist in FRONT of you to hear you coming. They may hear a bike somewhere in the distance, but it won't make them look or stop in their tracks immediately.
If you like a different sound, hey Cool! or performance, but don't count on
it for keeping the "Blue Hairs" who can't see over the dash from pulling out in front of you.
My experience in driving emergency vehicles for over 21 years shows that most people don't even hear the LOUDEST of sirens, tack on flashing lights and wig wag headlights and guess what...still nothing. Part of the problem is that most of the sirens are mounted on the light bar, on the roof. The vehicle is usually traveling quickly and the sound projected forward is minimal. The change of placing the siren horn in the front grill has helped somewhat, but nothing spectacular. You're talking capabilities of 124 decibels for top rated sirens.
My point is that the exhaust note of a motorcycle is projected to the REAR of the motorcycle, NOT FORWARD, (like a siren). The decibel level and tone would have to be insanely loud in order for a motorist in FRONT of you to hear you coming. They may hear a bike somewhere in the distance, but it won't make them look or stop in their tracks immediately.
If you like a different sound, hey Cool! or performance, but don't count on
it for keeping the "Blue Hairs" who can't see over the dash from pulling out in front of you.
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darthrider
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I only partially buy-in to the "Loud pipes save lives" bit.
As a general proposition, nearly worthless. In a few specific cases yes, they work. And always better than the crappy horns that come on most bikes. I thought the 50R's horn was pathetic until I heard the one on my Speed Triple!
If I'm in the lane next to a brain dead cager...I can get their attention. I don't stay next to them long, usually just passing by on my way to some "clean air" but they have been helpful on occassion.
They are really handy when you want to annoy a cager on a cellphone. Get up next to them, drop a couple of gears and you can almost hear them shouting, trying to be heard! Yeah, I know...public image and all that. Don't care much about that. Especially since that's usually the most annoying thing they will ever see me do. I go out in the country for the *really* annoying stuff!
And yes, I also know it might piss one of them off enough for them to "move over on me". But I had that thought before them, I'm 2 gears down already for some serious, instant acceleration, I'm covering the brakes, I regularly practice swerving, and I'm expecting their move. So I'll take my chances with that.
This won't be PC enough for some and not radical enough for others. Don't care about that either, just telling you my experience and what I do. As with anything else, everyone should make up their own mind and your results may vary.
As a general proposition, nearly worthless. In a few specific cases yes, they work. And always better than the crappy horns that come on most bikes. I thought the 50R's horn was pathetic until I heard the one on my Speed Triple!
If I'm in the lane next to a brain dead cager...I can get their attention. I don't stay next to them long, usually just passing by on my way to some "clean air" but they have been helpful on occassion.
They are really handy when you want to annoy a cager on a cellphone. Get up next to them, drop a couple of gears and you can almost hear them shouting, trying to be heard! Yeah, I know...public image and all that. Don't care much about that. Especially since that's usually the most annoying thing they will ever see me do. I go out in the country for the *really* annoying stuff!
And yes, I also know it might piss one of them off enough for them to "move over on me". But I had that thought before them, I'm 2 gears down already for some serious, instant acceleration, I'm covering the brakes, I regularly practice swerving, and I'm expecting their move. So I'll take my chances with that.
This won't be PC enough for some and not radical enough for others. Don't care about that either, just telling you my experience and what I do. As with anything else, everyone should make up their own mind and your results may vary.
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Re: loud pipes
marecycling wrote:, to my way of thinking, this is a safety issue.
..........does this come from the same study that says that Helmets cause neck injuries and therefore are dangerous?
........try a Staintune, sounds great!
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Pat
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"Guest" asks:
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The engine wouldn't run worth a danm, it would LOOK fantastic, it wouldn't be (surprisingly enough) very loud AND it would sound like poo, your engine would run soooooo phrick'n lean, that you would feel the heat under you and KNOW that something was terribly wrong!
Been plenty of us who have gone before you, we have tried a number of things..... and we've all concluded that the R1150R exhaust NEEDS back-pressure; and that "sexy sound" from our Boxer's engine is well...... good luck finding it. I happened to LOVE the noise my Remus Y-pipe/SuperTrapp made, but anybody expecting the sound of a Duc' coming out of an Oil head will be disappointed.
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I agree with Dave's technique of riding in traffic. If (at the very least) a rider doesn't have the attitude of maintaining the upper hand, and/or asserting or announcing one'self (in whatever fashion....), that beast we call "traffic" will swallow ya up!
As a side note, I watched Rich ride into a family of deer on a country road. He was on his K1200R with it's quiet exhaust, and they didn't so much as break their stride while he rode almost into the middle of 'em. I was several yards behind him, and when I rounded the corner to see him surrounded by all the Bambi's, I blipped the throttle of my Triumph's LOUD exhaust...... they scattered right NOW! On the same ride when I was in the lead, I watched a few deer take off and retreat back into the wooded area when they heard my LOUD Bonneville's exhaust fast approaching them.
"Loud exhausts scare deer."
Just doesn't have the same gravity as the sticker we're accustom to seeing on beanie helmets everywhere......
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2)"So what would happen if one was to run JUST the staintune collector box, and no can?"
3)"It would look great, and be probably loud as hell...."
The brief answer to all your questions would be:"...would the fuel injection keep up with the flow, would it lean itself out or would you simply lose out on all of your low and mid end torque?"
The engine wouldn't run worth a danm, it would LOOK fantastic, it wouldn't be (surprisingly enough) very loud AND it would sound like poo, your engine would run soooooo phrick'n lean, that you would feel the heat under you and KNOW that something was terribly wrong!
Been plenty of us who have gone before you, we have tried a number of things..... and we've all concluded that the R1150R exhaust NEEDS back-pressure; and that "sexy sound" from our Boxer's engine is well...... good luck finding it. I happened to LOVE the noise my Remus Y-pipe/SuperTrapp made, but anybody expecting the sound of a Duc' coming out of an Oil head will be disappointed.
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I agree with Dave's technique of riding in traffic. If (at the very least) a rider doesn't have the attitude of maintaining the upper hand, and/or asserting or announcing one'self (in whatever fashion....), that beast we call "traffic" will swallow ya up!
As a side note, I watched Rich ride into a family of deer on a country road. He was on his K1200R with it's quiet exhaust, and they didn't so much as break their stride while he rode almost into the middle of 'em. I was several yards behind him, and when I rounded the corner to see him surrounded by all the Bambi's, I blipped the throttle of my Triumph's LOUD exhaust...... they scattered right NOW! On the same ride when I was in the lead, I watched a few deer take off and retreat back into the wooded area when they heard my LOUD Bonneville's exhaust fast approaching them.
"Loud exhausts scare deer."
Just doesn't have the same gravity as the sticker we're accustom to seeing on beanie helmets everywhere......
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How about this can?
http://www.moto-net.com/images/intermot ... iso_03.jpg
It's on the new Moto Guzzi Griso. Hang it on your R1150R and watch it tump over like Fred Flintstone's car with a slab of Brontosaurus ribs hanging on the window!
Cheers,
http://www.moto-net.com/images/intermot ... iso_03.jpg
It's on the new Moto Guzzi Griso. Hang it on your R1150R and watch it tump over like Fred Flintstone's car with a slab of Brontosaurus ribs hanging on the window!
Cheers,
BigJugs
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2004 R1150R Piedmont Red... Not the fastest color but chicks really dig it!!!