Odd load & design "challenge"... need feedbacks

[thepeacebullgrunt]

Hello!

Question First!
What would you use to safely glue 3 or 4 small pieces of metal as big as a quarter coin on the plastic lead of a GIVI rear topcase? I need a glue that will be outdoor resistant, easy to remove & cleanable if needed to be.

I have this tedious & stressful task these days to design a custom surf board bag in order to carry on my bike my surf board in a relative safe manner along the coast of California in few weeks...

The board is a 4' by 17" old school body-board made of a light and thin wood (0.75")

So the weight isn't a huge issue, the aerodynamic either the way I plan to locate the board on the bike....

The issues are maybe the load visibility from rear, the volume of the object itself, the vibrations on the area in contact with the bike and also to find a SAFE, EASY & FAST way to secure the board bag on the motorcycle.

Because I am going to move often from beaches to beaches I am dreaming of doing it without bungees to save loading time & headaches... with this target in mind I am meditating on using those new super strong fero-magnets conveniently located on the boardbag, then on the GIVI topcase and one the large spare helmet bag on the passenger seat.... those are the contact points in between the board and the bike.

The empty space in between the black helmet bag and the boardbag will be filled by a large bellow pocket full of towels to serve as cushion.

See below


photo by fredoroid, on Flickr

Below is the type of custom boardbag I am designing now...
http://www.vitaminblue.com/shop/boardbags

And below are those Fero Magnets I mentioned earlier from Rockler.com


photo by fredoroid, on Flickr


photo by fredoroid, on Flickr


photo by fredoroid, on Flickr

[dbrick]

I am not convinced that even multiple magnets of this small size - even strong ones - will hold the bagged board in place when the bag is subject to the aerodynamic loads and vibration created by the motorcycle running down the road.

Fastening the magnet halves to the bike is another challenge. You could do so with epoxy adhesive, but they would not be "easy to remove" - probably couldn't remove them at all without damaging or fracturing the surface to which they were fastened. A removable adhesive would likely not be strong enough. A through-bolt (the magnets seem to have holes) would require a hole in the mounting surface and a backing washer or plate.

I might consider several large areas of Dual-Lock for this use, but that would require mating flat surfaces, which doesn't seem to be the case.

[thepeacebullgrunt]

I copy you dbrick...I knooowww it's a mess.
But trust me those magnet are almost dangerous to manipulate because of their aggressiveness.

I like the magnet idea but I feel like I need to stick with the good old bungee stuff.

I carried the board from San Diego to LA with bungees when it was new in a bubble wrap and it went fine.

By any chance, do you know what is the width of the rok straps bungees?

[dbrick]

By any chance, do you know what is the width of the rok straps bungees?

Sorry, I don't - no ROK straps in my garage. Someone here ought to know.

[Patch]

By any chance, do you know what is the width of the rok straps bungees?

The ROK straps are 1" wide ... the widest part of the side-squeeze buckle is 1.25"

[Lost Rider]

There's also 1/2" ROK straps, the buckle is 22mm wide x 9mm tall, i just measured it for you.
http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/prod ... Qgod1ycA3w

adjustable ROK straps are a very trustworthy and easy on-off way way to rig stuff to a bike, bungie cords are not IMO.

you could get some of these to put on the top case to provide tie down points, fender washers on the inside:

http://www.allthingsjeep.com/rng-footma ... QgodW2wA8Q

[deilenberger]

+1 on ROK straps. A very safe and reliable way to fasten stuff to the bike.

[thepeacebullgrunt]

Thanks guys!

I just needed few feedbacks because since almost 10 crazy obsessional days I was stuck at figuring out a clean way to use those magnets for this specific project but I think I am going to give up on them now...

I ordered two 18" to 60" adjustable ROK straps.

Also a special thanks to Patch for this "the widest part of the side-squeeze buckle is 1.25"
I needed this detail to figure out loops size on the custom boardbag.

Have a great weekend
Cheers!

PS: But I might use one or two magnets somewhere to damper lateral sliding specially on the topcase area...
Am I Stubborn? yes maybe...

[bluebeemerII]

thepeacebullgrunt

I would stop by an auto upholstery shop and get some 1" thick closed cell foam to pad the top of the GIVI and any other area there might be contact. I also have been happy with my ROK straps. Use them to keep the Kermit Chair and soft bags attached to the pillion seat.

John L.

[angellr]

+2 ROK straps.

[Dr. Strangelove]

How fast and how far are you going to go with this improvised sail?
It would appear to be an aerodynamics nightmare and a likely safety issue for you and fellow motorists.

A surfboard is designed to ride waves and the atmosphere you're riding through will be fluid enough that the board will have opportunity to do its thing. Anything strong enough to secure the board from achieving freedom is going to seriously adversely affect the handling of the bike.

At least, it seems likely enough to be concerned about.

John

[kirby]

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[Lost Rider]

Also a special thanks to Patch for this "the widest part of the side-squeeze buckle is 1.25"
I needed this detail to figure out loops size on the custom boardbag.

Have a great weekend
Cheers!

Considering this statement, I'd say he's putting plenty of thought into how to do this right. With the board in a custom bag, with loops sewn into the bag run the ROK straps through mounted in a way he pictured, I don't see any issue at all for non-interstate travels up the coast as he's doing.

Having some foam in between the pressure points is a good suggestion too.

[Dr. Strangelove]

let us know how it turns out. and pix please.