Cafe R1200R?

[Tarmac]

Has anyone tried mounting a set of flat, old school superbike, handlebars? What about clubmans?

[mogu83]

When you fit a set of clubmans PLEASE post a picture.

[Mollygrubber]

...ditto if you install apehangers.

[TT RDHS]

When you fit a set of clubmans PLEASE post a picture.

I'll be interested to see if they hit the tank, at full lock...

[Tarmac]

Im planning on doing a track day this summer, and I think that lower bars may help.

Im worried that the flat bars, or clubmans may hit the tank when at full lock. Kinda hoping that I wouldn't have to be the guinea pig on this one...

Anyone make rear sets for the R? What about mounting the footgear from a R1200S?

[spoonyfork]

I'll help crowdsource this r&d effort. I'd love to see if this is possible.

[hjsbmw]

When you fit a set of clubmans PLEASE post a picture.

I'll be interested to see if they hit the tank, at full lock...

If anyone wants to do this then the old Laverda style bars, adjustable clubmans really, might help here. I think they used to be made by Tommaselli but there are replicas available now, http://www.rearsets.info/handlebars.html.

[sondey]

Just wondering , if this might work. Could a set of bar backs be installed on backwards. Then rotated down. You might want to sit on your bike and position yourself to about where it looks where the bars will end up. If it doesn't work you're only out $50.

[Tarmac]

Im going to head over to the local motorcycle salvage yard this weekend. I'll see if I can score some cheap bars, that way if it dosn't work im not out too much bread.

Still thinking about rear sets... I may have to get them fabricated.

[Motor 1]

Has anyone put any kind of lower bar on the r1200r? Will clip ons from a 2007 r1200s work? I have tried to ask service folk at the dealer and get a lot of and lastly (side note) I also have an '07 F800s and have asked if I can swap the 800s bars for the r1200 bars? They just don't know! Anybody? Rick

[Mike Figielski]

Has anyone put any kind of lower bar on the r1200r? Will clip ons from a 2007 r1200s work? I have tried to ask service folk at the dealer and get a lot of and lastly (side note) I also have an '07 F800s and have asked if I can swap the 800s bars for the r1200 bars? They just don't know! Anybody? Rick

If you have the F800S why not take some measurements or just unbolt them and try it?
Mike

[Motoman]

This is as close as I got

[Don C]

Check out Kieran's installation of flat Rizoma bars:
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=18943

[dbrick]

Anyone know how Kieran dealt with the bar end weights? Looking at Rizoma bars online, they don't seem to have the odd notched ends shown on the BMW bars.

[Kieran R1200R]

Anyone know how Kieran dealt with the bar end weights? Looking at Rizoma bars online, they don't seem to have the odd notched ends shown on the BMW bars.

The bars ar Rizoma and you can get them from here, http://www.cjmoto.com , look on the left hand side of the page and click on handel bars, then conical which are fat bars, there is also risers there as well but I didn't get there's because I all ready purchased a set. It's free world wide shipping, but be prepaired to wait because they come on pack mule, get nothing for nothing!

The bar end mirrors come from here, http://www.oberon-performance.co.uk ,
Ok the original bars with the original mirrors use to vibrate at certain speeds impairing rear vission. Surprised that with the new bars and end mirrors there ZERO distortion. The end mirrors are not even weighted. I don't now what it is, if the fat bars make a difference or because there not stuck out there on a stork, but there's no buzzing in the mirrors.
They are tricky to work out how to fit, but if you settle and look at what is required you can work them out. If you do get a set, remember not to tighten them up to the exstent that you can't move them, because you will need to go for a ride and adjust on the move!

Hope that helps some of you.


If you just want to put the bars on and don't want to fit bar end mirrors, then you need to buy different weights!
The bars I have on the bike are the flatest you will be able to go without having issues of touching the tank.
Even with what I have got you will need to rotate the hand controls to stop touching.
Remember that on the left control there is a locating hole for that assembley. You need to install the risers and the bar with all the hand control on but not tightened up and find where you want them, then you get off the bike and with a fine marker mark the locating hole on the left control onto the bar where you need to drill the hole. The hole is there to stop the control from rotating. Make sure you drill the hole the same size on the locating screw inner thread size, so it will self tap when placed back. It will self tap because the bars are aluminium. If you drill the hole bigger then you will have to find a bigger screw!! Nothing is easy so do your home work. Sit down with a beer in the shed and look at what you need to do, bit by bit, and it will unfold itself, then in reverse order put it all back together.
If anyone needs any help you can PM me and I will assist if I can.

If anyone does fit the oberon bar end mirrors please note that there are 2 sizes the larger ones are convex making things apeer closer than they are, so that is why I went for the smaller mirrors.
At first it is hard to comprehend the images because they are small but you eventually adaped to it.
The one thing that is amasing is that there is no distortion, you have a clear image. I can see somone picking there nose it's that smooth a image on the move.

[Kieran R1200R]

I seen a guy today who pulled up on a R1150 Rockster. The bars on his bike wore almost flat! They wore standard bars, so I guess they would have a part # and they would go straight on the R1200R, wish I seen them before I went to all my trouble!

[JohnM]

I’ve been following this thread w/ some interest. Not long after I bought my first bike in April 1972, a new Yamaha R5C 350cc, I started fitting it out as a café racer. Expansion chambers, rearsets, clubman bars, etc. In hindsight, I have to ask myself …. What was I thinking?

Café is a neat thing and, IMHO, much more innovative than the Orange County Choppers ilk. The stuff that’s appearing currently on the Discovery HD channel’s “Café Racer” series is truly inspiring.

That being said, I wonder why the original poster wants to go Café with the R12R. Besides the difficulty in obtaining the pieces to do the conversion, you also need to convert over to shorter cables & lines to accommodate the flat/clubman bars. Otherwise, the front end of the bike takes on the appearance of a spaghetti factory.

Look, I don’t want curb anyone’s enthusiasm on converting the R12R, but if I wanted to go Café today, I’d seriously considering building a new bike based on the Yamaha XS650, any of the Japanese 4’s, or even an old Airhead, where the aftermarket currently supports that sort of thing.

And leave the R12R as is as a daily driver, sans chiropractic bills. Unless you’re up to the conversion challenge.

Just my opinion.

JohnM

[Tarmac]

Just to clear it up...

I want lower handle bars because I do track days on my R12R. I'd like to get lower on the bike to get down behind the sport screen when Im hitting 120mph on the front, and to put more weight on the front end entering corners. The stock riding position isn't "bad", but it's quite upright, and seems to encourage more of a Super-Moto/foot down riding style then a laid down, knee out, road race style. Unfortunately the bike is too heavy/wide to actually slide around, foot down, on asphalt.

I've been looking at the R12S gear, and I don't think the handle bars fit. I think Kieran's bar set up is the best thing out there, but I'd still be interested in clubmans.

After my last track day it was clear that the real limiting factor is the rear brake pedal and gear shifter. I was able grind both of them with shocking regularity, on stock tires. Given a set of sticky road race rubber, and I'd destroy the footgear in a couple laps. Again, I looked at the R12S gear. The left side foot hardware (shifter) looks like a straight swap. The right side (brake) looks a lot more complicated. The foot peg is a easy 2 bolt swap, but all the brake stuff is completely different.

So far I have not found anyone selling aftermarket rear sets.

Yeah, I know this whole thing makes me the black sheep of this board, everyone else seems more interested in turning their bike into a Gold Wing, but I'd like a but more cornering and handling.

Honestly, if i had 1/2 a brain, I'd just buy a old SV-650 to flog around the track, and keep my R12R stock. Or trade it in on a HP2 Sport MUWWHAHAHAHAH!!!!

[TT RDHS]

Just out of curiosity...
Tarmac, have you replaced the shocks yet?
I used to touch the curb feelers down now and then, with the stock shocks. But they have not touched down since I put on the new shocks...
And I'm riding it a bit harder now, as well.

[Kieran R1200R]

Just to clear it up...

I want lower handle bars because I do track days on my R12R. I'd like to get lower on the bike to get down behind the sport screen when Im hitting 120mph on the front, and to put more weight on the front end entering corners. The stock riding position isn't "bad", but it's quite upright, and seems to encourage more of a Super-Moto/foot down riding style then a laid down, knee out, road race style. Unfortunately the bike is too heavy/wide to actually slide around, foot down, on asphalt.

I've been looking at the R12S gear, and I don't think the handle bars fit. I think Kieran's bar set up is the best thing out there, but I'd still be interested in clubmans.

After my last track day it was clear that the real limiting factor is the rear brake pedal and gear shifter. I was able grind both of them with shocking regularity, on stock tires. Given a set of sticky road race rubber, and I'd destroy the footgear in a couple laps. Again, I looked at the R12S gear. The left side foot hardware (shifter) looks like a straight swap. The right side (brake) looks a lot more complicated. The foot peg is a easy 2 bolt swap, but all the brake stuff is completely different.

So far I have not found anyone selling aftermarket rear sets.

Yeah, I know this whole thing makes me the black sheep of this board, everyone else seems more interested in turning their bike into a Gold Wing, but I'd like a but more cornering and handling.

Honestly, if i had 1/2 a brain, I'd just buy a old SV-650 to flog around the track, and keep my R12R stock. Or trade it in on a HP2 Sport MUWWHAHAHAHAH!!!!

Coming off the R1200S and onto the R1200R I can tell you that the seat to peg distance is the same.
The R12S will have a higher shock front and rear.
It will probally be about 20mm.
If you install thoughs shocks it will lift your bike 20mm and solve your clearance issuses.
If you need more there will be a ride hight adjuster at the bottom of the Ohlin rear shock. If you still need more the you can go on and install a adjustable paralever arm and that will rearly jack the back up.