Fuseblock install question

[9Schwein]

I'm looking at installing a fuseblock and wondering to which circuit others have attached the switching lead. Also, is using a wire tap OK or is there a recommended better method? Appreciate any suggestions, thanks.

[gezerbike]

While this doesn't answer your quedtion, you might ponder this. I powered my remote fuse box directly from the battery, and instaslled on/off switches in between the fuse block and the accessory. It would seem to me that if you grab the power for it from a switchable source, once you start the bike and turn on the accessories you have wired to the fuse box, all the power they take will be drawing against that one single source, and Mr Canbus might not be too happy.

[Caol]

Over the winter of '07-'08, I had the tech at the shop where the bike was in storage add an Centech AP-1 fuse block.

He hooked it up directly to the battery, with a relay that cuts power to the fuse block about 30sec after the key is turned off.

Unfortunately, the bike is currently in storage, so I can't root around under the seat or provide pictures. So I don't know which circuit he used to activate the relay.

We've since hooked up the Stebel Nautilus air horn, and the PIAA 510 driving lights through the fuse block, and I'm planning on adding another accessory socket, fused to take a full set of Gerbings etc. etc.

Have fun!

Kyle

[gezerbike]

When the dealer installed the Motolights for the previous owner, he too used a relay to shut the lights off after 30 seconds. They are directly wired to the battery. It actually is a pretty cool feature to have that 30 seconds of light at nightime. I do have a remote switch mounted on the bars that I can use to turn them on and off as well.

[celticus]

I've had a Centech fuse panel under my seat since the first winter I owned it. It was a good little winter project. I have mine wired straight into the battery (with an inline fuse of course) specifically so I could have power when the bike was turned off. Like for charging an Ipod or cell phone at a rally or whilst camping. I have two under seat electrical ports ( I can't think of the proper name right now) hooked to the Centech so I can use a regular smart charger for battery maintenance and to plug in electric clothing for me and the wife. The power for my radar detector comes from the Centech also.
I am sure there are pictures of a Centech install on this site somewhere as several of us have them.

Mark

[9Schwein]

Thanks everyone. I'm looking at the Eastern Beaver PC-8 which has 6 switched circuits and 2 unswitched (always hot) circuits. It does connect directly to the battery, and has a switching lead that operates a relay. The website (easternbeaver.com) implies that the switching lead can be safely tapped into the parking light wire of a CANbus bike, but this is my first CANbus experience so I really don't know if it is OK or, if so, the best place to connect it (the switching lead). Anyone else using the PC-8? I think the Centech AP-2 uses a similar wiring setup with their AP-130R relay wiring kit.

[deilenberger]

Thanks everyone. I'm looking at the Eastern Beaver PC-8 which has 6 switched circuits and 2 unswitched (always hot) circuits. It does connect directly to the battery, and has a switching lead that operates a relay. The website (easternbeaver.com) implies that the switching lead can be safely tapped into the parking light wire of a CANbus bike, but this is my first CANbus experience so I really don't know if it is OK or, if so, the best place to connect it (the switching lead). Anyone else using the PC-8? I think the Centech AP-2 uses a similar wiring setup with their AP-130R relay wiring kit.

The front parking light power feed should be fine. That's where I have the trigger voltage for my driving light relay coming from.

[9Schwein]

Thanks, Don, I think I'll try that. Did you use a wire tap to attach to the parking light wire?

Ned

[deilenberger]

Thanks, Don, I think I'll try that. Did you use a wire tap to attach to the parking light wire?

Ned

Positap. Had one left over from some car project. It doesn't overly damage the wire it's tapping into which is a big plus IMHO. I would never ever use ScotchLok(tm) connectors - they are a problem waiting to happen. I believe EasternBeaver has them as well as other vendors.

[richwerth]

Thanks everyone. I'm looking at the Eastern Beaver PC-8 which has 6 switched circuits and 2 unswitched (always hot) circuits. It does connect directly to the battery, and has a switching lead that operates a relay. The website (easternbeaver.com) implies that the switching lead can be safely tapped into the parking light wire of a CANbus bike, but this is my first CANbus experience so I really don't know if it is OK or, if so, the best place to connect it (the switching lead). Anyone else using the PC-8? I think the Centech AP-2 uses a similar wiring setup with their AP-130R relay wiring kit.

I've used this kit on a f800st with a centech 2 tapped into the parking light as suggested. I'm sure there's no difference btwn boxes. I'd highly recommend it.

Very easy install

[hoflix]

Damn it!
I just ordered the Blue Sea 5025 fusebox 2 days ago. I didn't know about this PC-8. Looks nice, and it's smaller.

But why tap into the parking light and not the power socket?

Is it because of the delay? Parking light is "instant-off", whereas the power socket has (what feels like) 1 min delay. Or is that 30secs only?

Anyway, I like the 1 min delay. Here's why:

I have my GPS (Zumo550) wired to use the power socket as the trigger, so the GPS will stay on for 1 minute after removing the key. I find that very useful at gas-stations for instance, when refueling, it gives me time to open the gas cap, open the topcase, get the wallet, swipe the card, put the wallet back in the topcase, lock it (i need the key for that, can't close it without) get the key back in ignition, to keep the GPS on. Plus, the gps has a 30 seconds timer itself.
OR
I also have the driving lights wired to use the socket as the trigger, so the lights also stay on for one minute after taking the key out. This is particularly useful at night.. for instance I can stop in front of the garage, get off the bike, take the key out, open the garage door, (key on the same keyring) and get back on the bike with the lights still on. No need to feel around in the dark for the keyhole, no banging my head on things or tripping or walk up to the house, or motel room
OR (the best)
I just like people telling me I left the lights on.... and I pretend not to understand for a while, and then they point to the bike, but by that time the lights are off, and they get confused

[Tom Barnhart]

I used the Centec AP 2 panel on my R1200R. The panel is connected to the battery with a fused supply. The power for the relay was taken from the tail light-the easiest accessable supply. The two unswitched power terminals are for my GPS and a power outlet to allow me to connect a battery charger. The switched power terminals fed by the relay with a delay are used for lights, and other accessories. I have never had a praoblem with any faults or fault codes.,

[9Schwein]

Thanks for the responses; sounds like the PC-8 will be fine. Hoflix, now you've got me thinking about the benefits of using the power socket lead. Hmm, decisions, decisions...

[Graf]

i have done this install....and here is a link to step by step install instructions and pic's.
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=15597&p=138244&hil ... ch#p138244
good luck.
alex

[Mollygrubber]

hmmm... what a coinki-dink - I just logged in to ask if someone could shoot a couple of pictures of their install (bet you there's a bunch somewhere here already)

Thanks for the clairvoyance!

[9Schwein]

Graf, Awesome, Thanks!