I did the changeout and took the reading again. (Not having moved either the meter or the bike) Got a reading of 201. Wow...An increase of 0.5% I must admit that I'm underwhelmed! I know the color spectrum is supposed to be closer to what evolution designed our retnas for, but $45 for .5 percent. Wish I'd of bought a steak dinner...
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I found after my annual ABS fluid change I had an extra $45 burning a hole in my pocket. Always on the lookout for bright things I bought a PIAA SuperWhite H4 headlight bulb to replace the stock one when I got home. Being ethnically Techish I decided to check out how much my expenditure bought me
...Soooo...I set up a light meter on a stand about 10 feet from the headlight. (no need for precision because this is a comparitive measurement not absolute.) The bike was on it's center stand. Turning on the headlight in lo beam got me a measurement of 200 (once again what the units are is unimportant since it is a relative thing I'm interested in.) Running only on the battery and battery tender.
I did the changeout and took the reading again. (Not having moved either the meter or the bike) Got a reading of 201. Wow...An increase of 0.5% I must admit that I'm underwhelmed! I know the color spectrum is supposed to be closer to what evolution designed our retnas for, but $45 for .5 percent. Wish I'd of bought a steak dinner...
I did the changeout and took the reading again. (Not having moved either the meter or the bike) Got a reading of 201. Wow...An increase of 0.5% I must admit that I'm underwhelmed! I know the color spectrum is supposed to be closer to what evolution designed our retnas for, but $45 for .5 percent. Wish I'd of bought a steak dinner...
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To be fair, give it a ride test. Tell us what you think using your eyeballs as the guage, they are the guage that really matters after all.I know the color spectrum is supposed to be closer to what evolution designed our retnas for,
I have never used PIAA's bulbs, so I can't say. But I put some Sylvania "super whites" in my car. They burned out so fast, I was a little peeved at the "premium" that they charge. I went back to standard halogens, and they are still burning (couple of years, commercial vehicle, daytime running). With the "super whites", I did seem to have better vision while they lasted.
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PIAA superwhites
I always replace stock headlites, kind of an anal thing I suppose. Anyway, I used to use the Sylvanias, but got a deal on the PIAA when I bought my Rockster. Not a notable difference lighting the road at light, but when I replaced my 06 Scion XA bulbs with the same PIAA superwhites, it was a much better outcome, noticably better on the car than the bike
I hate to tell you this, but for the same $45 you could have installed an Eastern Beaver H4 headlight relay, which would have sent more current to your stock bulb and protected the circuitry that goes through the high/low switch. In theory, you would have gotten more light output from your stock bulb.
http://easternbeaver.com/Home/Main/Prod ... _kits.html
Then for a few more bucks, you could install a 90/100 w bulb, which is what I have. It makes a huge difference in lighting output, but you should have a relay handle the current draw on this.
http://easternbeaver.com/Home/Main/Prod ... _kits.html
Then for a few more bucks, you could install a 90/100 w bulb, which is what I have. It makes a huge difference in lighting output, but you should have a relay handle the current draw on this.
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There is a lot of confusion about bulbs that people don't realize.
The PIAA Super White and Sylvania Silverstar bulbs all have a blue-ish coating over the bulb to give it a "whiter" light. However, and coating decreases the useable light produced by the bulb. I definitely don't recommend this, especially for a motorcycle.
If you want a brighter light, you need to look at the Osram Silverstar (this is different from the Sylvania version), Philips Vision Plus, or the Narva Rangemaster. They are true +50% and +20m bulbs.
I just ordered a set of Osram Silverstar H1's for the Rockster. I should have them in the next couple of days and will report back.
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The PIAA Super White and Sylvania Silverstar bulbs all have a blue-ish coating over the bulb to give it a "whiter" light. However, and coating decreases the useable light produced by the bulb. I definitely don't recommend this, especially for a motorcycle.
If you want a brighter light, you need to look at the Osram Silverstar (this is different from the Sylvania version), Philips Vision Plus, or the Narva Rangemaster. They are true +50% and +20m bulbs.
I just ordered a set of Osram Silverstar H1's for the Rockster. I should have them in the next couple of days and will report back.
- Anthony
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I have replaced my headlight bulb with a Phillips X-treme power H4 from Nippy Normans. It really does make a difference to my night time riding. The beam is longer, has a wider spread and is much brighter than the +50 it replaced.
I also replaced the stop / tail lamp at the same time with a Phillips Vision Plus which makes my tail and brake light much brighter than stock.
Phillips X-treme power H4.
http://www.nippynormans.com/prodinfo.as ... =2&mitem=4
Phillips Vision Plus.
http://www.nippynormans.com/prodinfo.as ... =2&mitem=2
Hank.
I also replaced the stop / tail lamp at the same time with a Phillips Vision Plus which makes my tail and brake light much brighter than stock.
Phillips X-treme power H4.
http://www.nippynormans.com/prodinfo.as ... =2&mitem=4
Phillips Vision Plus.
http://www.nippynormans.com/prodinfo.as ... =2&mitem=2
Hank.
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I'm jealous - I looked into that, but they don't make the X-treme in an H1 fitment.hank wrote:I have replaced my headlight bulb with a Phillips X-treme power H4 from Nippy Normans. It really does make a difference to my night time riding. The beam is longer, has a wider spread and is much brighter than the +50 it replaced.
Good idea on the vision plus for the brake lights.
rdsmith3 wrote:I hate to tell you this, but for the same $45 you could have installed an Eastern Beaver H4 headlight relay, which would have sent more current to your stock bulb and protected the circuitry that goes through the high/low switch. In theory, you would have gotten more light output from your stock bulb.
http://easternbeaver.com/Home/Main/Prod ... _kits.html
Then for a few more bucks, you could install a 90/100 w bulb, which is what I have. It makes a huge difference in lighting output, but you should have a relay handle the current draw on this.
Your not sending more current. Your using more current. Ohm's law and all that stuff. A watt is a measurement of heat dispersed by the utilizing device.
100 watts @ 12 volts = 8.3333333 amps. That is the current it takes to produce 100 watts @ 12volts. Most relays on our bikes are rated for 10 amps. I have driving lights I run on a relay tied to the highbeam relay on the bike. Draws 17 amps with 2- 100 watt lamps @ 12 volts. A watt is a watt, don't be fooled by claims of 150watts of light from a smaller wattage bulb. Not possible!
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I guess I should have clarified. With the relay kit, you would be using much heavier gauge wiring that goes directly from the battery to the headlight. Lower resistance = higher currentbransan wrote:rdsmith3 wrote:I hate to tell you this, but for the same $45 you could have installed an Eastern Beaver H4 headlight relay, which would have sent more current to your stock bulb and protected the circuitry that goes through the high/low switch. In theory, you would have gotten more light output from your stock bulb.
http://easternbeaver.com/Home/Main/Prod ... _kits.html
Then for a few more bucks, you could install a 90/100 w bulb, which is what I have. It makes a huge difference in lighting output, but you should have a relay handle the current draw on this.
Your not sending more current. Your using more current. Ohm's law and all that stuff. A watt is a measurement of heat dispersed by the utilizing device.
100 watts @ 12 volts = 8.3333333 amps. That is the current it takes to produce 100 watts @ 12volts. Most relays on our bikes are rated for 10 amps. I have driving lights I run on a relay tied to the highbeam relay on the bike. Draws 17 amps with 2- 100 watt lamps @ 12 volts. A watt is a watt, don't be fooled by claims of 150watts of light from a smaller wattage bulb. Not possible!
V = IR where V is a constant 12 volts so if R goes lower then I (current) must go higher.
BMW does not equip the bike with a headlight relay, do they?
Bob
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